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If you want a lot of info on Attach-EZ and might want to purchase one, call 1-800-527-1521. The lady that answered the call is the inventor of this item. She is a very, very nice lady to talk to and was in the framing business for many years. If you have any questions to ask ( I had a bunch), she can answer them. I ordered a complete kit a few minites ago. The kit comes with complete instructions. One business used to sell them and i was curious which would be better... Attach-EZ they used to sell or what they replaced the item with. After talking to the lady, Attach-EZ won by a landslide! ajh
 
I've used Attach-EZ tagging guns since they were introduced a few years ago, and prefer them for mounting garments -- especially athletic jerseys. There's more to using these tools than buying the hardware. Pat Kotnour (that's who you talked to) has worked out all kinds of great ways to use the tools. The value is in the instructions she provides.

Have you also seen her other products? The EZ-Tach kit is one of my favorites for object mounting, and her new colored monofilament threads (can't remember the name right now) are extremely strong. Good stuff.

There's more in the archives under several search terms.
 
Yeah, her name is Pat Kotnour (Member # 3098)
CGF, Certified Grumbler and she is quite a regular "grumbler"...

Ooops, ya beat me to the draw Jim...
 
And if you aren't buying directly from her, you may be buying bait and switch product that is very inferior.

See past threads about bending needles...
 
Originally posted by Baer Charlton:
And if you aren't buying directly from her, you may be buying bait and switch product that is very inferior.
The same products that sell as AttachEZ are available elsewhere from the manufacturer's distributors. She did not invent the tool, just found an application for an existing tool that served framer's needs. I'll give credit for innovation not invention. As far as I know, there is nothing proprietary about any of the products.
 
wpfay, You are absolutly right, I did not invent the tools that I sell in the Attach-EZ kits. Avery Dennison did. What I did was patent the method of use. That method of use includes any tools which are sold to do the same thing as the tools that are in my kits--attaches fabric artwork to mat boards and foamboards.

It was not accident that all the the lengths of fasteners that come with the kits are the right debth to work with all types of fabric Artwork. I tested many fasteners and hand tools before choosing the contents of my kits. The instructions are designed to give you the information you need so that you don't have to guess as to how and what to use to attach a jersy or doily. There are several instruction pages that come with the kits.

Those instructions are the reason Attach-EZ works and thousands of people are using it today. And also the reason that the only tools which I warranty are those which are purchased in a kit.

As for the needles---there are other needles out there, and some of them are being sold using the Attach-EZ name but did not come from my company. Unfortunately I have no control over where people are buying their needles. Many of these needles bend much easier than those which I have been using from the inseption of the Attach-EZ company.

Any kit from my company will always have the AEZ logo on it. Every kit has mounting instructions for shirts and doilys, with tips on how to use the tools. If you receive a kit without instructions that teach you to unjam a jammed tool, apply the needles so that you won't bend them, etc, send the kit back. It is not an Attach-EZ kit.

My only goal since starting the company has been to help framers an make their lives a little easier. If you have questions please call. I will always try to help you if I can.

Thank you to all those who are using the Attach-EZ products. It's wonderful to hear all the good things people say and I never get tired of hearing how much easier it has made peoples lives.
 
Hello Pat, Love your EZ, would like to suggest that you make a tape or dvd so that we can visually see how you do all the applications. Your demos at the shows are great but I find myself wanting to see the applications as oppose to reading about them. I would like to be the first customer. Thanks........
 
Excellent idea treeves! I was able to see Pat demo the Attach-EZ in Vegas and I was sold. I immediately purchased the entire kit. An instructional video would be great Pat. It would help remind me what I saw you do during the demo. There were so many people watching it was hard to see it all --- which is a compliment to your great product. Thanks.
 
I hope to have a dvd by the Atlanta show in the fall. So far I have scheduled it twice and each time a close member of my family has died, which both times brought the project to an abrupt halt.

Everyone keeps asking for a video or dvd so I will really try to make it happen before Atlanta. Hopefully the third time will work out. Thanks again for all your support.
 
Pat -
Will you be doing any demos at the NYC Decor show? I would like to see the other product that Jim Miller mentioned (colored monofilament threads)
 
Pat,
I use the attach-ez and love it. As an inventor who holds a couple of patents myself, patents facinate me. I have a hobby of searching the trademark and patent office web site quite a bit. I cannot seem to find the use patent you spoke of. Please post the patent number for me. I look forward to the dvd when produce it. Thank you.
Bulbking
 
Yes, I will be showing at the NY Decor show--booth 3701. If you bring a business card to my booth you will receive a free gift.

bulbking--The patent is still pending on Attach-EZ. Since you hold your own patents you must also know that is takes a very long time to get a patent through the system. Both trademarks on Attach-EZ and EZ-Tach are fully filed and have been approved. As far as giving you my patent number, you should also know that it is not something that an inventor should give out to anyone during the patening process. I will tell you this though,it is in the inspection stage and it should be approved shortly.
 
I sell tag guns - quilters use them, but mainly for temporary positioning. I have not looked (much)into their use for framing, or at any adapted versions because I am spoilt for choice for needles and thread and all sorts of gizmos that prevent injury and bent needles..... and one of my framers is a dentist ........

Please correct me if I am wrong, are these guns not just a quick-fix way of doing something 'properly' with a needle and thread?
 
Originally posted by RoboFramer:
...are these guns not just a quick-fix way of doing something 'properly' with a needle and thread?
For framing purposes, the nylon attachments may be considered a long-term mounting method. They are stronger than thread, so stress is not an issue. On the other hand, when strength-limiting is an attribute -- For example, if we would depend on our thread-mount to break instead of shredding weak fabric under stress -- then thread is probably not the best choice, either. However, that usually is not a mounting tactic for athletic jerseys and many other garment mounting jobs.

Nylon is chemically stable and will not cause reactions in most framing environments. It is light sensitive, but enough light to weaken the attachments to the point of failure probably would cause fading and other light damage to the items, anyway. When I mount a garment with the tagging gun, I keep nearly all of the attachments beneath the top layer of fabric, so they're out of sight and in the dark.

The main limitation of a tagging gun is that the needle's diameter is larger than a hand-sewing needle. So, if the larger needle would cut or tear the threads of a fabric's weave, we shouold not use it. Finely woven silk and satin come to mind. But the weave of most fabrics would not be damaged by the tagging gun. After all, these tools are made to be used in many kinds of fabrics. New fabrics, that is. If the fabric is old and fragile, then a non-sewn mount may be best.

Like all framing methods and materials, tagging guns have both advantages and limitations. As framers, we should learn how to determine which particular method/material is most suitable for the job at hand.
 
Thank you Jim, I may experiment.

The tags are not as strong as button thread, try snapping that, you'll draw blood first! (well, on my dainty hands you will!)

Our guns retail for £20 ($34 - so that's $17 to me) seems these 'adapted for framing' guns are a bit of a rip off, going by UK prices, how does that compare over there?

But they do sell very well according to my reps, most framers, over here anyway, leap at the chance to make a not-so-easy job easy, and they have no idea of what these things cost in a shop like mine, because they have no reason to frequent one!

Before these guns, going by what I have seen, a lot were using adhesive and tapes. So the guns do have something going for them.

Personally, on football shirts I sew them not-too-tightly, over a foamboard former. With a curved needle from the back for most of the stitches, so the front of the shirt is not pierced.

Then a very few strategic stitches at the front to sew the whole thing to the mount. Collar, cuffs, maybe a few to stop anything from flopping forward. These are the only difficult stitches because they have to pass through the foamboard, (easy) the garment AND the mount (not so). Can the tag guns do this?
 
Originally posted by RoboFramer:
...Our guns retail for £20 ($34 - so that's $17 to me) seems these 'adapted for framing' guns are a bit of a rip off, going by UK prices, how does that compare over there?
Tagging guns are available over here for similarly lower prices, but there's no rip off. The value of the "adapted for framing" guns is in the instructions, which have saved me (and presumably others) hours of wasted time and helped to get the most usefulness out of the tools. And for us in the USA, there's value in the convenience of buying consumables from our usual suppliers. Your UK suppliers probably will stock these in the future, as well.

For mounting garments, a tagging will do everything a needle & thread can do, but easier and faster.
 
The tag gun has to pierce both sides of the garment and go through the board too. You cannot adjust the tightness of a tag fastener, you are restricted by the lengths that they come in, you can make stitches as tight or as loose as you wish.

A curved needle goes through the back of the garment, into the foamboard former and back out again without going through the front of the board or the garment.

A skilled stitcher can stitch 'invisbly' chuck a few stitches out in the open; anywhere s/he likes, you won't see them, otherwise your trouser hems would look a bit silly wouldn't they. We even stock invisible thread (So darn'd good we can't freakin' find it!)

Personally I do not think sewing things in place is difficult, OR slow. The tag gun is one more tool that will help new framers run before they can walk!

As I said, though, I WILL experiment, but I think all that I will find it useful for is temporary fixing of more difficult fabrics that are constructed of mesh.

Our framing suppliers have stocked these things for some time. I stocked them for quilting long before anyone had the idea of using them for framing. They were used for attaching price tags to garments long before anyone thought of using them for quilting too.

Hey - hope someone took a patent out on the quilting idea, eh!

Truth is the guns we stock are just called 'Tag Guns' - no mention of the word 'quilting' or 'patchwork' - quilters/patchworkers know what they do.

But now, in the framing world, we have the same things with fancy names, a few modifications and some instructions and the price (definitely in some cases) is taking the proverbial............

Pat tells me that some guns, with certain types of tag not really designed for them 'jam like buggery' too!

[ 02-26-2006, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: RoboFramer ]
 
RoboFramer, I'm really not sure what you are selling or buying, but my kits are designed to do much more than just give you a tagging gun. You are not buying one tagging gun, you are buying a whole system that includes two different tools, 8 needles,10,000 fasteners, an EZ-Stretch kit, and instructions on how to use the tools to mount jerseys, T-shirts, and doilies etc. The needles used in my tools are ball point and are designed to displace the fabric, not tear it. I also warranty the tools that are purchased in an Attach-EZ kit for 90 days and then a permanent out of warranty program takes effect.


I'm pretty sure that almost everyone who has ever used my technical service number will tell you that I do my best to make the customer happy and to help them with what ever problem they may have.

And since you brought it up, you should know that the new All In One kits come with many other new products. You not only get the contents of the complete kit listed above, but the EZ-Tach kit for mounting 3 dimensional art, a new 5mm fastener and black MicroTach fastener, a Tenara thread kit that comes in 10 color, the EZ-Stretch kit that teaches you to stretch needlework using the tools, and it all come in a carrying case. All the instructions are included with this kit and when anyone purchases at a show, or for a week past the show, or if they mention this post they will also receive the new sewing awl and thread kit.

So, if you are going to compare my kits to anything else that is on the market, or compare it to the knock off kits people are trying to pass off as the same thing as Attach-EZ, it is like comparing apples to oranges.
 
Pat,

That's a big impressive list of equipment.

This, and some skill, is what it replaces.

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I hope all my competitors buy your product, or the equivalent over here, such as the 'Micro-stitch' gun from Lion framing supplies.

I'll win some of their customers by making sure they know we do things by hand etc etc.
 
Pat,

I know your product has many good points and features. I also know that after having used i tthat Robo's concerns about not being able to adjust the tension et al are really not founded. I do like that to remove the items attached with th eAttach system you just need to pop the tags with a deftly held razor blade.

However, after owning the attach and having gone through more needles than I care to count I have gone back to Robo's method! And Robo you'll like this I sold the attach system to a competitor! I have also seen my share of needlework increase after he bought my old Attach, conicidence, I think not!

Don't regret having owned or used the Attach, and in the right shop it definitely will save a lot of time and do a great job, but I'm back to being a purist and using needle and thread. Attach is betterthan glueboard and ATG, but I like my lacing!
 
Originally posted by RoboFramer:
The tag gun has to pierce both sides of the garment and go through the board too. You cannot adjust the tightness of a tag fastener, you are restricted by the lengths that they come in, you can make stitches as tight or as loose as you wish.
Like the stitches you decribed, the tag gun fasteners may be installed without piercing the top layer of fabric, so they are out of sight. When mounting, I insert the tool's needle through the mount board, the back layer of fabric, and the support insert (cut out of of 4-ply board; edges sanded), but not through the top layer of fabric.

The nylon fasteners may be adjusted from the back of the mount board after they are installed. Use longer fasteners than necessary. Install them all; then turn the mount board over, pull them tight, and hold the slight tension with a spot of tape on back. This takes about the same amount of time as tying off the stitches and adding a spot of glue between each one, in case the thread breaks -- otherwise one break in the thread would release the entire mount.

If you can place 20 stitches as fast as you could install 20 nylon attachments, more power to you. I can't. Also, I find the tag gun's needle much easier to poke through a reinforced mount board than using a thimble on a hand-sewing needle.
 
Originally posted by Bob Doyle:
...having gone through more needles than I care to count...
Perhaps you gave up too soon, Bob.

The newer, machined, all-metal needles are stronger than the original rolled-steel with the white base. Also, these newer needles have a smoother ball-point, less likely to cut through an old, weak fabric.

The best way I've found to avoid bending the needle is to grip the tool higher for insertion, placing the index finger in alignment with the needle. Then re-grip lower to pull the trigger. Once this method is mastered, no more bent needles.
 
Robo, why would you discount its usefulness when you haven’t even used it?

It seems as though you are just being cantankerous. I wished you wouldn’t be.

We often wonder why representatives from companies do not participate in forums. Well this might be one example.

If you have used it and have problems, please tell us. That makes products better.

But you are more than happy to thrash a product you haven’t used? That is just unfair to Pat, the company, and in the end Grumblers. Please stop.
 
Jim Jay and Pat,

thank you all for reading and replying on this thread! See Robo, this is how products get improved. Feedback, constructive feedback. (And responsive manufacturers. ;) )

Jim I may have given up too soon on the Attach. But the frustration level was getting out of control. I mean really push the needle in, oops bent, push the needle in, oops point rolls over. I was going back to predrilling the holes with my awl then pushing the needle in.

My PeeWee baseball coach told me to choke up on the bat too! And when I first started playing golf I had to choke up on the clubs because I was(am) so short! (In my high school yearbook there is a picture of me holding another golfers golf bag. The bag was taller than me!) Now I have to choke up on hand tools! I thought getting older I wouldn't have to choke up anymore!?


No doubt the Attach is a good tool. But I hate being the guinea pig that has to pay to work out the bugs (yep, I bought the ProSpray System too, never too old to make mistakes to learn from!)
 
Originally posted by Jay H:


We often wonder why representatives from companies do not participate in forums. Well this might be one example.
Oh my God, I agree with Jay! :eek:

On a different thread we are talking about vendors helping us market custom framing...why would they want to help anyone here with a post like that. I would love to talk with some of them on this forum...but I fear that'll never happen. I'm glad I am so pleased with all my reps and the products I have chosen for my shop. I can talk very frankly with all of them...they know I don't want anyone blowing smoke up my skirt, and they respect that.
Personally I love Pat's product, I don't use it for every situation, the same as that I don't use regular glass for every situation. Use what works best for you, and fulfills the best needs of your project.
We all have our own methods and comfort levels...do ya think we can all be a little more open minded????
This all started because she wanted to let us know about a giveaway at the NY show! Geez show some respect.
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Whats so surprising about agreeing with me? Hmmmm

Carry on.
 
Oops....did I type that outloud?!?
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OK so tell mne: I saw this systemn several years ago when it was being sold by, I believe, Flethcer and I think Jim Miller was doing the demo--this was maybe three years ago in Atlanta.

So how has it changed? I know several people bought them after that show and had a heckuva time with breakage, etc. So what's different?
 
Thank you Steph, Jay H, and Jim for your support.

Bob Doyle, I am the first one to tell you that if you want to sew and feel better about your work when you do, then go for it. Some people who use the tools may have trouble at first but generally they will catch on after a couple of bent needles. I would be happy to help you figure out what the problem might be if you would give me the chance. Most of the time it is something very simple that can be fixed with a few pointers.

There isn't one person who is using Attach-EZ who has been forced into it. I don't expect everyone to like it, but I am very glad that the thousands of framers who are using it, do. I am not the enemy of the framing world. My only goal has been to make the job easier for those who are interested in finding easier ways. If you like using the old methods, that is perfectly fine by me. I only ask that those who aren't using Attach-EZ to be fair and know what they are talking about before they give out incorrect advise to those who may be looking for a mentor. The best educators will always teach all of the methods of mounting and teach the new framer to make the decisions as to where and when to use these methods.

There is another thing that I feel is very important to address here--my products should never take the place of a good education. Taking classes is the best way for any framer to learn all of the accepted ways of mounting. This is the only way to be able to make the proper choice when money is no object or you have a project that requires the highest degree of archival methods. I don't even use Attach-EZ on everything. But, I also know when not to use it, and so should every framer. That's just good business.


For a little humor here---one woman told me that when she died she wanted to be buried with her Attach-EZ tools because she never wanted to be without them again. Not everyone feels that way, but for those that do---thanks!
 
Originally posted by Jay H:
why would you discount its usefulness when you haven’t even used it?
Good point Jay - "Don't knock it till you've tried it"

But I can form an opinion on what I have seen, heard and read.

Jim Miller said 'The main limitation of a tagging gun.............'

Which means it has other limitations. With a footbal shirt, the equipment in the photo, has none.

Time and ease seem to be the two main things it has going for it - both very good selling points for product. But TAKING time and having skill to do difficult work are also good selling points for winning custom. (This does not mean I am going to sell my underpinner and revert to manual tools!)

But until I get my hands on the actual product I will wind my neck in. If I hate it I'll hang it up for sale with the quilters guns, some of which, I have discovered DO have a name "Quilters BASTING guns" Made by a company called 'Prym' - German.
 
Originally posted by Mike LeCompte CPF:
OK so tell mne: I saw this systemn several years ago when it was being sold by, I believe, Flethcer and I think Jim Miller was doing the demo--this was maybe three years ago in Atlanta.
I was in Atlanta three years ago, and Attach-EZ was probably marketed by Fletcher at that time. I have talked about tagging guns in lots of my classes, but I have not had the pleasure of demonstrating one in a trade show booth.

Anyway, what's new since then is the new needle described earlier in this thread. It is much stronger and better -- not only for bend resistance, but it has a better ball point, too.
 
Originally posted by RoboFramer:
Jim Miller said 'The main limitation of a tagging gun.............' Which means it has other limitations...

(This does not mean I am going to sell my underpinner and revert to manual tools!)
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Have you ever seen a tool that had only one limitation? Let's see now...what could be the tagging gun's other non-main limitations?

Hmmm. Ok, it's not a good tool for mounting leather -- but wait, neither is any other method that makes a hole, including a needle and thread.

Here's another one: On some wide open lacework the attachments might just fall through.

And another: If the mount board/fabric/support insert assembly is more than 3/8" thick and solid, then the attachments might not be long enough to penetrate all the way through.
 
RoboFramer, I suspect that there isn't anyone who is going to convince you to even try the product that you are giving so much advise about. That is your right, but I ask you...how would you like it if someone bad mouthed your shop for something they only heard about you or your methods but really didn't have any first hand proof that it was true? You have your unfounded opinion, but that is exactly what it is, an unfounded opinion with no real proof to base it on.

As I said before: There isn't one person who is using Attach-EZ who has been forced into it. I don't expect everyone to like it, but I am very glad that the thousands of framers who are using it, do. I am not the enemy of the framing world. My only goal has been to make the job easier for those who are interested in finding easier ways. If you like using the old methods, that is perfectly fine by me. I only ask that those who aren't using Attach-EZ to be fair and know what they are talking about before they give out incorrect advise to those who may be looking for a mentor. The best educators will always teach all of the methods of mounting and teach the new framer to make the decisions as to where and when to use these methods.

Please RoboFramer, learn about what you don't know before you give out unfounded negative advise. You certainly have made me understand why more manufacturers don't post on the Grumble. People like you don't want first hand information. They are content to believe the second and third hand gossip. To only listen to your own advice means that you never learn anything new. You do not do this forum justice. When framers come here they expect to get correct information, not unfounded opinions about something you admittedly know nothing about.
 
Pat in all fairness I don't think Robo's comments are TOTALY unfounded as you suggest. Robo hasn't availed himself of your Gun but has stated that he has used other guns for a long time .He also has stated that he found those to not produce any advantage to his ability to use needle and thread.Some disagree but I dare say many others don't .
The point being that while Robo hasn't used your product he has used the method it utilizes and finds no advantage that seems to be a well founded opinion just as those who like the AEZ and indorse it's use.
He also seems to have some problems with the cost as compared to other guns ,and while you and others feel that the additional cost is warranted he doesn't. These points seem to be no different than any other point of view only they don't agree with the pro-AEZ.It would seem that only if he purchases /obtains an AEZ and uses it, is his opinions on the methods and techniques it uses considered valid or "WELL FOUNDED" .I fail to agree.

I ,and I 'll bet many other framers, have forulated opinions as to wether we would agree with the principles ,cost and/or equipment's ability to preform based on demonstartions at trade shows ,instructional seminars,and written advertisements viewed in conjunction with what we feel are sound framing principles as taught by sources like PPFA,FACTS, and Forums and Networks like this and others,as well as years of experience.And calling on all that input have decided to buy or NOT BUY most products being offered.

But to discredit any of those opinions solely because they have choosen to not purchase or use a given article as unfounded is just as UNFAIR as what you suggest Robo is doing to other vendors.

While there are many who use and like your and other's products ( AEZ included) many others do not .Some just choose to not continue to appear as though they are unwarratedly bashing a product that others like.If memory serves me there has been a long discussion of the AEZ and varing opinions about it's pros and cons ( I think back to 2003).However this is (IMHO) the first comments about it from ROBO and maybe from a framer outside the USA or in the UK.So maybe Robo is spreading the word about AEZ to new areas and others will form their own opinions there ,if we don't call their discussions "UNWARANTED".
Charles BUDDY Drago
 
This product is extremely user friendly. I have seen Pat at sevearl frame shows and have listened to her. I used this for the first time about two weeks ago. It took me about ten minutes to do a 24x24 carpet type of thingee. It was nice to use did not fustrate me and worked very well. I hid those babies so well you could not see them. Great experience.

This is another tool. Know when to use it and why. The price...people complain about the price of a cmc, however many shops are now using/own them. So a machine that costs several thousand dollars has its place. It can not do everything that a manual cutter does, but it can do other things a manual can not. You choose!

The price is minimal if you use it correctly and take care of it, you will get years out of it. That works for me

PL
 
Originally posted by Pat Kotnour:
RoboFramer, I suspect that there isn't anyone who is going to convince you to even try the product that you are giving so much advise about.
Well, I was going to leave this alone and said as much. But I did say I WOULD try this product before commenting further.

I have not given advice on this product, just comparisons and opinions basd on those, I have admitted that those opinions are not borne of first hand experience and have been corrected on some of them, but I have also made valid points based on my experience of doing things differently.

I'm not just a framer, our shop carries a huge amount of needlework and all the associated
accessories. My wife knows more than you or most anyone else on TG about the subject, sorry - I don't actually know if that is true, but I'd be very surprised if.......

And be it a football shirt, a sampler, a needlepoint, a cross stitch or a tu-tu - I'll sort it with a needle and thread, I'll pick the needle from about 80 types that we sell (not including machine needles) and the thread from an even more bewildering selection.

Some framers don't even know where to start looking for a selection like that and wouldn't know what to ask for if they found it, that is one reason that your gun is so popular. They are restricted to what they can find in framing suppliers catalogues and if big industry names say they are OK TOO then that is all they need to hear, which is absolutely fine.

I repeat, I WILL try it out, with an open mind, if I like it, it will have to be DARNED good and I will eat humble pie!

To answer another question of yours - how would I like it if someone slated a product of mine etc.

Well, to tell the truth, if it generated this much publicity on TG - most of it in defence of the product I'd be very happy.
 
Thank you Robo Framer, I appreciate the fact that you are willing to try it. When the time comes let me know if I can help you in any way. As I said before, my only goal is to make the job easier for framers and to help them make more on some of the labor intensive jobs that they can't charge enough for, because the average customer won't pay it. If you are in NY stop in to my booth--3701.
 
Thanks Pat Kotnour... I am very pleased with the performance of the Attach-EZ. I read the instructions carefully first, which are very easy to understand and have been using it when needed. It has come in very handy. I have not broken a needle yet... the needle just "slides" through the mat(s) with just a little effort. Thanks again. ajh
 
My life is forever changed! I order my Attach-EZ last Friday. I went ahead and did it because of an order I received that made me think, "Wow. I bet this project would go a lot quicker if I had that Attach-EZ". The kit came this morning and I spent about 15-20 minutes going over the literature. Using my new favorite tool I was able to mount a 34 x 47 woven rug in approximately 20 minutes. This was a rug that had a major fold down the middle so I was able to use the tool to tack this area down flat as well. It looks fantastic and there was absolutely NO USE OF OBSCENITIES!
 
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