I think I may be the first ........

Candy

SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
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I have always held the belief that no one has died because a framing order wasn't done as promised. I always try very hard to get my orders done on time or ahead of time is even better. Today, I had to call a customer and let him know that I had one of his 2 frames on backorder. The one piece is done, the other frame has been shipped, but order is due tomorrow. I swear he was bouncing off the walls. He declared that he was going to have a panic attack, he is counting on that, what will he do if he doesn't have it, and so on. If he could have, he would have come right through the phone wires and strangled me!!!!!!

I AM going to be the first person to die because of a missed deadline and I might be mur....................oh, forget it!!! I can't go there!!!!! :D :D :D :D :D
 
Wanna Bet!!!! :D :D :D

For 20 years I believed that............boy did I learn different today..........I sure don't want to be the cause of some poor guy having a panic attack............LOL...........
 
He has generously revealed his monstrous lack
of coping skills to you in full color. One would think
that such a poverty might better be kept hidden,
but those most affected seem hellbent on sharing
with all and sundry.

It sounds like you handled it well. If you had
blown it off, that would be one thing. But there
was a problem and you've handled it. Even more,
his gifts will be ready in time. If he went ballistic
over this, his head might just explode the day
he's faced with a real problem.

Some people should come with warning signs
 
I try to provide last minute customers with several choices - like a mat all nicely presented in the resealable bag - sometimes I have even let them take home a frame corner - just for the presentation on the DAY (whether it be Christmas, birthday, whatever). Or a gift certificate (card) to go with the matting. The Post Office and UPS and Fed EX do not apologize for late deliveries - neither should we be all freaked out.

About the only event you cannot be late for is a funeral but since these are not usually planned in advance ( ;) ) the customer is at the mercy of what I like to call "Framer's Choice." Take this or take nothing.

I also offer to take a photo with the corner samples (or those who have visualization can print out a copy of how the finished job will appear?) - people are thrilled when I email photos to them. Most people have phones that take pix nowadays so that is another option.

I have never been faced with a person going ballistic like that - it must have been way disconcerting. I guess all we can do is feel sorry for a man like that because he will undoubtedly be dead ahead of his time if he does not learn to take it easy.

You cannot push the river.....
 
if he gets particularly ugly about it hand him the vendors phone number and let him fight with the source of the problem...could kill 2 birds with 1 stone----educate the vendor in the responses to their doing things as they do now, AND let this idiot vent his head of steam onto someone who won't give a flip about his opinions.:(
 
Nup!! You are not alone.

When a customer asks me when something will be ready I offer my usual "roughly three weeks" and watch the reaction closely. If there is a definite deadline like a birthday I will always make sure I meet it but my philosophy in most jobs is "no-one ever died because a picture wasn't on a wall." If they seem a bit touchy about it I explain my position, ie sometimes, delays in getting materials etc hold me up, I am a one-man operation.......etc.

However, there are some people who, if you say "around three weeks", will "put that in the Bank" and be back on day 21 with an expectant look and a mouthfull if it isn't ready. It sounds as if you have just met one of these and they are a pain but just one of the joys of being a framer.
 
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You cannot push the river.....

I like this, Mar. Don't know where I've been that I haven't heard it before.

Here's another expanded version of the same thought...

"God, grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference."
 
Wanna Bet!!!! :D :D :D

For 20 years I believed that............boy did I learn different today..........I sure don't want to be the cause of some poor guy having a panic attack............LOL...........

Think of it as, He might be the cause of some poor guy having a
FRAMER ATTACK !!!!!!!!
 
Ask him if he wants to frame his portrait photo for his funeral now so it will be ready when he croaks from the stroke he will surely have any day now.

Offer him a discount on it for not getting this one done on time!:beer:
 
I don't understand this attitude, "I wasn't vigilant enough to confirm availability of supplies to get something important done for a client and now it may not be done so stuff the customer, it's not my fault." WTF is all I have to say.
 
I had a likewise thing, not for Christmas, but a last minute birthday gift.
I checked that the supplies were in stock first.
Told the customer it shouldn't be a problem.

Moulding came in; wrong moulding.

My customer understood fortunately.
 
Sometimes it's not somgthing we've done or not done that makes a framing order late. I've had frames lost by UPS or mats delivered to the wrong shop by a delivery driver. I've even had the local supplier send me the wrong mat entirely. (Luckily, when I called, the rep grabbed the right mat and drove it down to me just in the nick of time!) I've had the wrong moulding sent to me twice - when the supplier figured out they had put the moulding in the wrong bin in their warehouse.

I've had two orders in the last three weeks that had frames that were brand NEW on my wall - when I called to order them, the supplier said they wouldn't have any until mid-February - I offered to pick new frames for the customers, but if they had been dead-set on the orginal frame they picked, it wouldn't have been my fault if they had to wait for it to come in.

Most of my customers would leave without placing an order if I had to call and check on the availability of each frame they looked at or chose. I've done that in the past in under special circumstances,a nd you should see how antsy the customers get!

Another thing to keep in mind is that many customers think there is some kind of "magic" in framing - like I have stock of all 3000 samples in the mysterious back room, or I stock every color of matboard ever produced. Or the attitude that they are the only customer you've had and that because they need something done THAT DAY, that you don't have other orders from other customers (organized enough to place an order two weeks before they need it) that are in the que ahead of theirs.

I do everything I can to get pieces done before or on the due date. But I also explain to every customer that a 2 week wait is approximate, and that I will call them as soon as the pieces are finished. I do call them if the pieces won't be ready on the approximated due date, but things can and do happen that are out of our hands.

I had a woman place an order back in the middle of October. I had to order the frame and then re-cut it because the supplier wouldn't chop it that small. It took me a couple days to get the frame re-cut (because I had to take it home and set up the equipment to cut it). She called me a day before the due date wanting to know if it was done - I explained that we were just waiting on the frame and it would be ready in a day or two. She was annoyed that it wasn't done, but I had asked if she needed it for a specific date when she placed the order, and she had told me "no". She was just that way. I got the piece done a day after the due date and called her. I called her on October 24th, and she just came to pick it up Saturday (December 19th) - so, obviously, she wasn't in a hurry to get it, she was just being annoyed to be annoyed - she wasn't going to die if this little piece wasn't up on her wall back at Thanksgiving or she would have come and picked it up!

I doubt that if Candy had offered to replace the backordered frame with another one the customer would have been okay with that given his reaction to the slight delay in getting the piece the way he ordered it.
 
Sorry this happened. It does happen to all of us! People get very tense at Christmas. Perhaps you can offer him a way to present his gift until the frame arrives. Or perhaps you can offer him a stock frame as an alternative. If you extend your help as much as you can, hopefully, he will understand and be a bit more pliable. Maybe the reaction you got was just the initial shock, and he calmed down afterwards.
Best wishes, and let us know how it turns out for you.
 
Nice going Candy.. Now Christmas is RUINED!!! j/k

I had someone come in expecting me to have a Digital Imaging pic done for them... on the spot. Surrrrrrrrrrre. I think there's MS Paint on the computer at work, lemme do a lil touch up.
 
Bad planning on your part is not an emergency on mine. When exactly was this frame ordered?

My aunt always say that you have two choices; get over it or die mad. She usually follows that with, "Either way I don't give a ****". If I ever had a customer react like that I'd share her wisdom with them.
 
Thanks for all your comments. Your support has been very kind.

Today is my day off. I am going to name the supplier because they have really come through for me. I really depend on Larson and rarely have an issue with them. However, we are in Christmas and there are things that fall through the cracks. They will notify me by email when I have an issue. When one frame came in, I figured the other one would be coming shortly from another location. However, I should have called to double check. Being Christmas, time went by way too fast. I called Larson today, they patched me through to the warehouse that was to have sent the frame, they assured me it was shipped yesterday, he tracked the package while I waited. My missing frame is waiting for me when I get to work tomorrow. I can still make my customer happy and he doesn't have to have a panic attack while waiting for me to finish!!!!!! Larson also assured me that in this instance they would ship overnight to me should there be a problem at that point.

Larson came through for me!!! Thanks to all of you for being there for me!!! I love the G and all of you!!!! Merry Christmas!!!
 
Glad it worked out for you.

At least the customer wasn't having a panic attack there in the shop with you! My husband has been in a panic the last few days about getting photography orders done in time for his customers. Makes me wish we didn't share a building!
 
Don't you just love it when a supplier "Gets it"... meaning they understand
and have empathy for our problems serving a customer when things go wrong?

When they understand that it is a long chain and our customers are also
their customers. If our customer is not happy then ultimately it not
only affects us but effects them too?

Larson is one of the few suppliers I deal with that "Get it". :thumbsup:

Now... let's see if I really do receive that mat board from another supplier today
that showed on my invoice but was left out of the delivery for an order I have to have
done tomorrow! Supplier name unmentioned but my fingers are crossed.
If they deliver I will sing their praises...
 
...
If they deliver I will sing their praises...

OK... Frame Specialties came through for me!

Kevin Lastuck, son of Len and Lucy, delivered the board himself this morning.

Thanks, FSI, for "Getting It."!

:thumbsup:
 
Don't you just love it when a supplier "Gets it"... meaning they understand
and have empathy for our problems serving a customer when things go wrong?

YES!! It is one of my pet peeves. While I understand that all companies have employees, and some are very indifferent, many people that you get on the phone to resolve issues, just don't get it. Timelines, color and finish differences, etc.:bdh:
 
After an day of everything I touch going wrong, I have finally finished this piece. The customer literally called me 5 times during the day today. He has picked it up, signed off on it, and it is history. He was very happy with the end result. I have 5 small pieces to try to finish tomorrow. None of them have actually been promised for Christmas, only on my wish list. However, I should be able to have everything finished by 2 p.m. :D Happy Camper Here!!!!

Merry Christmas!!!
 
Compare and contrast your Mr. cranky Pants with my #### who placed his order on Sat, needed it for Xmas and never showed up Xmas eve to collect it. There is balance in the universe. Ha!
 
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