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How would you stretch this?

snafu

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This came in Saturday. Cross stitch with a photo opening
I try and stretch it and the opening puckers

How would you stretch this?
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Joe B

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good question - I can't wait to hear of the answer for this. I don't believe you would stretch but I've never had to do one so I wouldn't know for sure. Just pin it or cross stitch sewing on the back?
 

framah

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I would go with no stretching.
Lay it out and try to smooth the weave so it looks as straight as possible.
Is a photo actually going into it?
 

snafu

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So far the only thing I could think of is to mount it.
mount the photo going in the opening, then mount the cross stitch to the same board

Any amount of tension it puckers really bad
 

snafu

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I would go with no stretching.
Lay it out and try to smooth the weave so it looks as straight as possible.
Is a photo actually going into it?
Yes, she brought the photo
 
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framah

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Yeah, that could work, also.
 

shayla

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Is the opening out of square, or in?
 

snafu

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This customer designs her own patterns and sells them.
 

DVieau2

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Send a PM to Pat Kotner. A few years ago she helped me, over the phone, with an impossible to square up textile.
 
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wpfay

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This customer designs her own patterns and sells them.
Another design without regard to technology. "It's OK, the framer will figure it out".

Reverse bevel mat with opening just larger than the whip stitching along the aperture. Fabric glue. Weight. Wait.
 

Pat Murphey

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If the photo is replaceable, I would sew it behind the opening and gently stretch.
 

prospero

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I've done things like this but dry-mounted them.

The thing is to pre-mount some drymount film on a board, let cool and then smooth the work onto
the (tacky) surface. The trick is to put it in the press for a very short time - maybe reduce to temp and pressure.
Literally bring it up the pressure and take it out immediately. It will stick just enough to hold it but the adhesive
will not fully penetrate the fabric. It's not like paper so it won't be prone to bubbling. Doing it this way you can
actually peel it off afterwards if need be. Not strictly 'conservation', but fine on most needleworks.

** Of course in this case you would have to cut a window in the film just bit bigger than the hole so it doesn't show.;)
 

cjmst3k

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What about stretching the opening to be square first (by sewing the corners down to a board behind it, and then the stretching of the rest would not affect the opening. Just an idea. I haven't done it before.
 
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CHolt

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I've done things like this but dry-mounted them.

The thing is to pre-mount some drymount film on a board, let cool and then smooth the work onto
the (tacky) surface. The trick is to put it in the press for a very short time - maybe reduce to temp and pressure.
Literally bring it up the pressure and take it out immediately. It will stick just enough to hold it but the adhesive
will not fully penetrate the fabric. It's not like paper so it won't be prone to bubbling. Doing it this way you can
actually peel it off afterwards if need be. Not strictly 'conservation', but fine on most needleworks.

** Of course in this case you would have to cut a window in the film just bit bigger than the hole so it doesn't show.;)
That's right. You didn't say if you'd cut the window in the center of the mat first, I would. You could probably set the adhesive to the fabric with an iron if you wanted to.
 

prospero

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That's right. You didn't say if you'd cut the window in the center of the mat first, I would. You could probably set the adhesive to the fabric with an iron if you wanted to.
Yes you could.... But the film would need to be hard-bonded to the backing board first so you may as well use the press to 'soft bond' it.
 
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