Help...Mounting a gun!!

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Help Please, if you have experience mounting a gun, specifically a colt .45, I need your help. I have the attach-ez kit and I got a Mighty Mounts gun mount, which I can't seem to get the hang of. If you have experience, please let me know what to do.

Also, I haven't mounted anything with the attach-ez ez tach kit yet, so I am new to that as well (just something to keep in mind).

Thanks,

Dan
 
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How about Melinex straps around the trigger guard, the hammer and - undo the two screws and remove the handle cover plate - melinex strap over that, replace the cover plate?




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Thanks, that gives me some idea of what I'm working with.

Just for referrence, the gun is more like this one.
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It's really old and I don't feel comfortable removing the plastic handle plate. I guess I could, I'd just prefer not to. Also, how would you attach the melinex to the matboard below? I am new to the framing business, prior to the purchase of my shop, I was just framing my photographs, so I've never done heavy items such as this.
 
Mounting with clear film straps has been covered many times on the Grumble. Just do a quick search on the terms Mylar, Melinex, clear film, and you should find plenty of helpful posts by Jim Miller on the subject.

His book Mounting With Clear Film is also an excellent resource to have on hand and covers many uses of Melinex.




And no, I have no financial relationship with Jim Miller or Columba Publishing.
 
If it's older why not use a western theme and mount it with leather strips run through a leather mat. Possibly even get a cheap holster, cut the front off of it and sew it to the leather mat using leather strips... Most any leather shop should be able to supply the materials.... Just a thought...
 
colt 45 is like saying car.
Is it a revolver or automatic it should have a model # on it. either on the barrel or the receiver group. Attach a pic if you can.
Do you want it so the pistol can be removed or permanent
 
Does the gun look anything like this one, where it has a cylinder type chamber for the bullets? If so, call me and I will walk you through the method I used to attach this one. It is very easy to do and does no harm to the gun.

If it doesn't have this type of bullet chamber, if you can post a picture I have many other methods for attaching hand guns, rifles, shotguns etc. 1-800-527-1521
 

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Gumby and Pat, please look up a few posts and you will see a picture of it that I had posted. It looks exactly like that one (the third post, older model).
 
That's interesting, it shows up in my window, and I know I attached it and uploaded it to the pictures in my album...very, very interesting. I am imbedding it again, hopefully it works this time.
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Or do I need to do this instead of clicking the image icon and putting it as part of the text...
 

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For an old rifle that they wanted to be able to remove I went to a look metal smith and he made a couple of hand hammered, patinaed mounts that were period looking, supported the gun and were only about $60.
That was for a rifle. Don't know if this helps. Good luck.
 
You have to post picture as an attachment... Much better...
Now are you looking to mount it so the customer can remove it or will it be mounted permanently?
 
A melinex strap, around the trigger guard (behind the trigger) and a length of super sofstrand wire down the barrel and out the breech.

If the weapon is disabled then another melinex strap around the barrel behind the sight and possibly another around the hammer.

If it needs to be removed - formed rods and a slider frame.

If it needs to be removed in an emergency - formed rods and a hammer mounted to the wall next to the frame;)
 
RoboFramer said:
If it needs to be removed in an emergency - formed rods and a hammer mounted to the wall next to the frame;)
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That's funny. I like that, and I can make a little more having to make two frames instead of just one.

In reality, it doesn't need to be removed, so it's permanent. It has a bunch of other things too, but the other items are easy to figure out. The gun is just really heavy and awkward.

As far as the melinex strips go, I've made a quick search for it, but I haven't really found anything that says how to attach the melinex to the mat board. I wish I would have done this right when I got the order, not toward the last minute, I just didn't think it would be that big of a problem (maybe it's not and I'm just making it that way for no good reason:nuts:)
 
DPPhotography said:
As far as the melinex strips go, I've made a quick search for it, but I haven't really found anything that says how to attach the melinex to the mat board.
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The method of attachment is the most important part of the whole process.

1. The Melinex strip will pass through a small slit to the back of the board. Place a strip of 3M 889 double-sided tape next to each slit. DO NOT USE ATG

2. Attach the Melinex strip to the exposed adhesive of the 889.

3. Fold the strip back over on itself and place a second piece of 889 on top of it.

4. Finally, put a strip of single-sided tape on top of the whole thing.

5. Burnish well!

Easy peasy. Instructions and more are in Jim's book.


I have no financial relationship with 3M or the manufacturers of Melinex.
 
You make slits in the mountboard so as to be just out of sight, the straps pass over the item through the slits and are attached to the back of the mountboard.

Say you have 6" of strap each side of the item protruding out the back. Lay a strip of double-sided tape 3" long each side and stick the protruding straps to that whilst pulling it tight. Then fold the remaining 3" back over the stuck down 3" and tape over that too.

If you were to yank the gun out, the straps would rip the mountboard open, it's a very secure method.

There's loads of far better descriptions than that here somewhere, (Edit - just like the one above!) possibly with photos/diagrams - I'll have a peek when I get one of them round tuits.
 
FramerDave said:
The method of attachment is the most important part of the whole process.

1. The Melinex strip will pass through a small slit to the back of the board. Place a strip of 3M 889 double-sided tape next to each slit. DO NOT USE ATG

2. Attach the Melinex strip to the exposed adhesive of the 889.

3. Fold the strip back over on itself and place a second piece of 889 on top of it.

4. Finally, put a strip of single-sided tape on top of the whole thing.

5. Burnish well!

Easy peasy. Instructions and more are in Jim's book.


I have no financial relationship with 3M or the manufacturers of Melinex.
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You make slits in the mountboard so as to be just out of sight, the straps pass over the item through the slits and are attached to the back of the mountboard.

Say you have 6" of strap each side of the item protruding out the back. Lay a strip of double-sided tape 3" long each side and stick the protruding straps to that whilst pulling it tight. Then fold the remaining 3" back over the stuck down 3" and tape over that too.

If you were to yank the gun out, the straps would rip the mountboard open, it's a very secure method.

There's loads of far better descriptions than that here somewhere, (Edit - just like the one above!) possibly with photos/diagrams - I'll have a peek when I get one of them round tuits.
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Thanks, that makes sense, and in the back of my mind, that's what I was thinking, just didn't think it would be strong enough. I will look for some of that 3M tape. Sometimes, when it seems too easy to be true, you're making it too complicated.
 
Gun wieghs about 2 -2.5 lbs.
Gator board or Luann covered with cloth or mat board for backing.
You could also take a thin but strong stainless steel wire Pass it through the backing, down the barrel, out where the gap is for the cylinder then back through the backing again then use pliers to twist it together. This should be sure enough you could also put some wire plastic shrinkwrap at the front of barrel so it blends in more.
cut away some of the backing so the handle sets back in a little creating somewhat of a small support to the handle notthat it would need it but it will make look more like it isn't stuck on the backing.
Just another possibility..
 
Jerry Hadam said:
For an old rifle that they wanted to be able to remove I went to a look metal smith and he made a couple of hand hammered, patinaed mounts that were period looking, supported the gun and were only about $60.
That was for a rifle. Don't know if this helps. Good luck.
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That's a great idea.
 
DPPhotography said:
Or do I need to do this instead of clicking the image icon and putting it as part of the text...
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Dan, since you already have the kit, please call me. You have everything you need to mount that gun. I will e-mail you my gun mounting instructions if you don't have them. With just a bit of alteration, it will work on that gun as well. 1-800-527-1521
 
Bob Doyle said:
Pat, this was a project he was working on in 2009. I sure hope he has completed it by now ;)
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So how in the world did it get here today and why? Does he have another project?
 
I have not read the thread yet, but will pass this along. We did one recently for a local PD, a
dummy" gun being given at retirement. My framer removed the screws on the back of the gun, inserted wire and then tightened the screws back up. He then pulled the wire through the backer. He may have used a bit of mylar film to secure it further, but the gun looks like it is floating on the fabric mat. I will send photos when we get them online.

Oh, I just saw the date on the original thread. Oh well, probably an interesting subject to ressurect.
 
I think we can all agree on the first step:

#1 Make sure the gun isn't loaded...

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A couple of years ago we framed a shotgun. The mechanisms used to attach the gun were modified and painted offsets that held the shotgun in place without being permanently attached to the gun. I have many other pictures of the process if you need to see more. Basically the offsets were cut/welded/painted to fit the gun at every needed junction; and then screwed through the matboard and plywood backing. It was a technical challenge but fun to do. (The blue and white stickers were left on at the request of the owner).
 

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Here is one we did recently. Did not have the actual weapon, were just told it was a 45, you know like the ones the Army used (thankfully I do have one of those, carry it everyday.) We used 2 formed plastic coated rods hanging from a wood strip to secure/hang the pistol. They are threaded and adjustable, since we did not know exacty where the weapon would hang. We then hinged the back so it was accessible. Customer loved it.

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