Hanging Frames on Doors

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Larry Peterson

Larry Peterson

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I have a few blah looking flat doors in my house that I would like to hang some frames on. They are solid core, so I'm not limited like I would be with a hollow core door.

Of course, this presents a problem since the doors are opened and closed a lot so you can't just use regular hangers on the door.

Security Hangers will sort of work but they are not a tight fit and will rattle when the door is opened or closed. I would like something better.

And I'm not going to use restaurant/bar hangers (screws drilled right through the frame).

Any other alternatives? I want something that will be firmly attached to the door and not rattle or move.
 
I had a commercial job once where they had us hang the piece and then silicone all the way around it. If done carefully, you don't see it and it will not let the frame move. When they took them down some years later, they just used a razor blade and cut thru the silicone.
 
Jeannie Franklin said:
I had a commercial job once where they had us hang the piece and then silicone all the way around it. If done carefully, you don't see it and it will not let the frame move. When they took them down some years later, they just used a razor blade and cut thru the silicone.
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OK, that looks interesting. Did you use security hangers with it?
 
Cliff beat me to the suggestion of the Fletcher Hangers - but I would use 4 of them to keep the piece from moving around.

Also, check www.hangmanproducts.com - they have a lot of cool things you may find useful.
 
Rob Markoff said:
Cliff beat me to the suggestion of the Fletcher Hangers - but I would use 4 of them to keep the piece from moving around.

Also, check www.hangmanproducts.com - they have a lot of cool things you may find useful.
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I was also thinking that you need more than 2 when using these. They aren't cheap though. With shipping they are $1.50 each ($24.90 for 16) directly from Fletcher. That's why I was asking about a wholesale source.
 
Cheap method - the old mending plate trick originally from Paul Frederick, more recently diagrammed by Jim Miller - do a search on TPFG for "mending plates" or use this link
 
Larry Peterson said:
Also very interesting. I've never used these. Is the frame tight against the wall?

Any wholesale place to buy them except directly from Fletcher. I couldn't find them in the United or M&M sites nor in the LJ catalog.
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Actually, for the door, I would use their "security" system which is basically a plastic ring on a screw that the key hangs on.

I use 4 for my "doored" applications and I would think you would need four for this as well.

Conact a Grumbler:

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and buy them direct. I don't think the security mounts are available anywhere else yet.
 
Think I would consider using a cleat (aka Z-hanger) on top and velcro strip at the bottom, and maybe a dab of acrylic on each end of the cleat to keep the frame from sliding left to right.
 
I once had a customer that wanted to hang a small picture on the bathroom door of a boat that he lived on. He complained about the rattle and solved it by applying thin strips of insulation foam on the back. Problem solved. This was with security hangers. The foam was also applied to the channel part as well.
 
echavez123 said:
Think I would consider using a cleat (aka Z-hanger) on top and velcro strip at the bottom, and maybe a dab of acrylic on each end of the cleat to keep the frame from sliding left to right.
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Z-bar would have been my suggestion as well. Top and bottom of the piece would be enough to stop any rattling.
 
Velcro??
 
Epoxy those suckers on there, but pick out something you can live with FOREVER.
 
Heyyyyyyyyyy LARRY!

Can you post pics when your done?? I wanna see!!!!!!! :D thanks!
 
I'm late to the conversation, but I would like to "ditto" the others' suggestions to use the Fletcher Wireless/Picture Perfect hanging system; two sets (four attachment points) and very sturdy.

Cliff's suggestion to use the wall-anchor type (screw only, no wall anchor) is a good one, but in a solid-core wooden door, I think the standard angled-nail attachment would be plenty secure, and it would make smaller holes.

Mending plate hangers, ala Paul Fredericks method, would also work well but would require screws in the door.

Nearly any mechanical hanging system would require some gap between the door and the frame, unless you use flat plates with keyholes over indentations routed in the back of the frame, with precisely-tight screws into the door.

Adhesive wouldn't leave a gap, either, but I would hesitate to use any adhesive to hold a frame to any surface, and certainly not a door, which would subject the bond to routine impacts. Any adhesive bond is only as good as the weakest of three elements: the adhesive itself, and the two surfaces bonded.
 
blackiris said:
Heyyyyyyyyyy LARRY!

Can you post pics when your done?? I wanna see!!!!!!! :D thanks!
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I will. At the moment I don't have a clue which method I will use for the first one. I'm going to give this a day or two to see what else pops up and then decide.

I think my first one is going to be for the basement door. In my 100+ year old house they took what was once the kitchen pantry and basement entrance and transformed it. At one time in the past it was a laundry room and sometime later it became a half bath and entry to the basement. No one can go into the basement when someone is using the can. But it beats having to use the upstairs bathroom.

In any case, whenever I'm on the throne, I have to stare straight ahead at the basement door. I put a small Parrish print above the door and some framed advertising from the 20s along the wall, but the door needs something. Don't know what yet. I've got some pinups that I haven't framed yet. Maybe one of those.

Maybe this one.

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I have a reprint of this, dry mounted and ready to go.
 
Jim Miller said:
Nearly any mechanical hanging system would require some gap between the door and the frame, unless you use flat plates with keyholes over indentations routed in the back of the frame, with precisely-tight screws into the door.
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I don't mind a gap... just that the frame doesn't rattle and is firmly attached.
 
Jim Miller said:
I'm late to the conversation, but I would like to "ditto" the others' suggestions to use the Fletcher Wireless/Picture Perfect hanging system; two sets (four attachment points) and very sturdy.

Cliff's suggestion to use the wall-anchor type (screw only, no wall anchor) is a good one, but in a solid-core wooden door, I think the standard angled-nail attachment would be plenty secure, and it would make smaller holes.

Mending plate hangers, ala Paul Fredericks method, would also work well but would require screws in the door.

Nearly any mechanical hanging system would require some gap between the door and the frame, unless you use flat plates with keyholes over indentations routed in the back of the frame, with precisely-tight screws into the door.

Adhesive wouldn't leave a gap, either, but I would hesitate to use any adhesive to hold a frame to any surface, and certainly not a door, which would subject the bond to routine impacts. Any adhesive bond is only as good as the weakest of three elements: the adhesive itself, and the two surfaces bonded.
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I agree that the nail mounts would be sufficiently strong initially. On a door that is opened and closed infrequently, they'd be fine. On a door that was opened and closed say daily or more frequently, I'd be more comfortable with the screw mounts. (oh, I guess Larry's picture has messed with my mind. That could be read really twisted!) :icon19:
 
Larry... at your age, this might be more appropriate:

 
I love pinups from the 40-50s and have a bunch that are dry mounted and ready to frame. That is just one. I picked it because it is the largest of the ones to frame.

I look at my pinups as art, not something suggestive. There are other things for that if I be so inclined. I'm running out of places to put them, hence the doors.

Most of my framed pinups are in my bedroom. And for the tour.... here they are:

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Larry, Love the one with the wee scottie doggie. Nice wall color too.

I was actually thinking of hanging a framed piece of carpeting on my workroom door to hang my Gargantuous frame samples on. I can them the Gargantuous collection you know the fab 5 inch plus wide moulding that NEVER or next to never get used on needlework.

And since shop wall space is at a premium. I even have stitched modeled hanging in the loo. One called Crabby Thru-out The Year by Raise the Roof is selling like hot cakes since I put it next to the commode...who'd of thought? :shrug:

I may post a pic, the loo is clean....
 
So... do you know of Olivia and her work?
 
framah said:
So... do you know of Olivia and her work?
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Do you mean Olivia de Berardinis?

I have seen a bunch of her work; especially the Bettie Page pinups. Much of her work has a bit too much nudity for me - not that there is any thing wrong with that.

For my walls, I prefer seductive or entrancing pinups over bare boobs.
 
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