Great New Product

John Richards

MGF, Master Grumble Framer
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Please check out www.attachez.com. I've been working with the "inventor" of this product and I really believe it will be a huge hit with framers. The combo kit (the only one being packaged right now) is $162.00. If you attend one of our open houses comming up you can get it for $152.00. If you e-mail me from the Grumble I'll honor the $152.00 through April 7.

Thanks.
 
John,

I applaud your customer in her innovative thinking and her perserverance in getting her idea off the drawing board and into production so quickly.

However, I am a bit reluctant to spend one hundred and any dollars on a kit without knowing what is in the kit. I am also curious as to how test were run on various objects to determine the safety of this procedure for c/p mounting.

I receive 4 different store fixtures catalogs on a far too regular basis but I notice in all of them, the tagging guns that are offered as a kit run from $19.95 to $45.95 with the gun, extra needles, and about 10,000 assorted fasteners.

What is in this Attachez kit that would make it so much more expensive when it is produced by at least one of the manufacturers that also produce the kits meant for tagging clothing? There is a big difference between a $50.00 tagging gun that looks the same as the Attachez which sells for $160.00

Please don't take this in any manner other than it is intended. You haven't supplied much in the way of specific information on this product and the website doesn't have much information either. I am simply curious as to the makeup of the new product and why I should buy one.

Framerguy
 
Framerguy,

If you trust my judgement (**** , even if you don't) I'll check it out at the TC open house in early April. If you're not busy, maybe you and Mark can come, too. It can't be more than about a 15-hour drive for you. 3-4 more Grumblers and we could take over an entire bar.

Nobody hates stitching jerseys as much as I do. It would be nice to believe that this thing really works.
 
All good questions! John Ranes called me when he saw my post and saw this device used in Australia over two years ago. He actually uses it in his demos. But....my customer with the blessing of Avery got permission to apply for an "Intellectual Patent" based on a "new market" idea.

What's in the kit?

One Fine Fabric Hand Tool (like you see in your books)
One Micro Hand Tool (brand new and just comming on the market) this tool uses even finer tags and can be used with very fine fabrics (tulle)and fine stitch work.
3000 1/2" and 1000 1/4" FF Fastners
2000 Micro Fastners
2 Fine fabric replacement needles
1 Microtach replacement needle
1 Attatch-Ez Object Mounting Instruction Book

We will also be carrying the replacement parts.

John said that Vivian wondered about the conservation conditions surrounding the fastners. They are 100% virgin nylon which if memory serves me correct are pH neutral. The colored fastners (if you would ever need them) are not.

I've tried this idea and as I'm sure John can attest it's a real time saver. It's packaged for the framer complete with placement instructions for various items.

Ron! Glad to hear your going to make the trip. It would be great to see you again.
 
John:

I have three questions for you:

1. Will this tool work through more than one 4-ply layer of matboard? We normally cut a 4-ply board (with sanded edges) to fit inside the garment, to fill it out and form it. So, the garment is supported by the board, not the stitches.

2. How tightly will the fasteners hold the garment? Sometimes we want to add polyfill, so the fasteners would need to be more loose. But sometimes we need tight fasteners, too.

3. Are different lengths of fasteners available for different projects?
 
As a framer who has put holes in nearly all my fingers punching pins and needles through rag board and other substrates, this item sounds like a Godsend.

I do have one question, however. What exactly do we see on top when the attachment has been attached? Is it the little 1/4" nylon "T" shape like on clothing price tags? That might work in some applications but it would be difficult to hide in others.

Holy cow, I might even start saying "yes" to sports jerseys again.....
 
I would have the objection to this method based on the grounds that the fastners are probally much stronger than the actual fabric. I would be hesident to use it on a good piece of fabric.

I will see if the kit is at the TC openhouse in Detroit in 2 weeks

Jerry

On the road at my local PBS station tonight, working a pledge break.
 
A similar tool is used in the drapery business. It's called a basting/tacking gun and Rowley's (drapery hardware seller) sells it for $17.50. The fasteners are available in 3/8" and 1/4" sizes for $0.34/strip with 120 fasteners per strip, so 4000 fasteners would cost you about $11.50. You'll need extra tips for sure and they run $2.00 each. The one I have is made by UTach. Just thought you should know....
 
1. Will this tool work through more than one 4-ply layer of matboard? We normally cut a 4-ply board (with sanded edges) to fit inside the garment, to fill it out and form it. So, the garment is supported by the board, not the stitches.

Yes it will.

2. How tightly will the fasteners hold the garment? Sometimes we want to add polyfill, so the fasteners would need to be more loose. But sometimes we need tight fasteners, too.

There are different length fastners. On some items I've experimented with, I've found that they don't quite get tight enough through the mat and foam. I then use framers tape on the back to tighten them up. This seems like it would take longer (it does) but the time saved using the gun more than makes up for it.

3. Are different lengths of fasteners available for different projects?

Right now we can offer 1/2" and 1/4" and the goal of the company is to expand this selection as the need arises.
 
What exactly do we see on top when the attachment has been attached? Is it the little 1/4" nylon "T" shape like on clothing price tags? That might work in some applications but it would be difficult to hide in others.

They are the "T" shape. On some items it is difficult to hide them and that's where the new Microtach may come in handy. Attach-Ez also states that in some applications you may have to sew but you can use the guns to position the items, clip the "T" and then sew. The beauty of it is your hole is already in place and the "T"s keep the object in place while you sew. So in other words it is not the end all for mounting and the company admits it.
 
I would have the objection to this method based on the grounds that the fastners are probally much stronger than the actual fabric. I would be hesident to use it on a good piece of fabric.


Jerome, glad you're comming to the show! I guess I'm not sure about the strength objection, I would hope that even cotton thread, when used properly to attach and item of value would be stronger than the original fabric. It will be available at the show for you to try out and Pat from Attach-Ez will be there to answer your questions.
 
A similar tool is used in the drapery business. It's called a basting/tacking gun and Rowley's (drapery hardware seller) sells it for $17.50. The fasteners are available in 3/8" and 1/4" sizes for $0.34/strip with 120 fasteners per strip, so 4000 fasteners would cost you about $11.50. You'll need extra tips for sure and they run $2.00 each. The one I have is made by UTach. Just thought you should know....


As I pointed out, as well as many Grumbler's this is not a "new" product by any means. Pat from Attach-Ez worked for over 20 years in the Garment business and this "along with her sprained thumb" was what lead her to kit these items along with use instructions.
 
I just thought that you might like to know about the Attach-EZ product from the person who invented it. Yes, there are products out there that I understand some people have been using. Those are the same products that I used 25 years ago and they are so much less adaptable to the framing business than the Attach-EZ procucts. One of the handtools in this unique line is brand new and Attach-Ez is th first company to market it in a meaningful way. Both handtools in the EZ combo kit are unique in their use and are needed for different types of mountings. One of the best things about the Attachh-EZ system is that you can give the instruction booklet to any new framer that you hire and they will be able to mount a T-shirt, doily, or any other type of fabric artwork by following the simple directions. The system is very easy to learn and very fast. The nylon attachments are so tiny that you can't see them. And, there are many tips in the instructions that will help you-- including adapting the fasteners to make them invisible on all colors.
To give you an idea of how time saving this product is, I was able to mount a 74x56 inch quilt, using both handtools, in less than 45 minutes. This is a $1500.00 framing job that I would not have attempted without the Attach-EZ system. Any good framer knows how much time it takes to do a project of this size by sewing. The city that brought this project to me had been turned down by 3 different frame shops because the job was to big and to difficult. This one job has more than paid for the Attach-ez system. Anyone who has any questions feel free to e-mail me at attachezoms@aol.com. You may also want to look at my web site www.attachez.com. Happy framing.
 
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