gold leaf embelm on mat

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I use to have a contract supplying mats and frames for the military police school's diplomas. The local printer used gold leaf and stamped the cross pistol logo and "US Army MP School" on the bottom of the mat for me. Because the mat board was thick, they had to do it by hand and I think I paid 60 cents per mat. Check it out with your printing companies.
 

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Make a custom rubber stamp... and stamp Duo, which is a leaf size for stampers and scrap book freaks... :D

Wait about 3-5 minutes and press the gold leaf.
Smooth out, and wipe away the excess.

I use it for bevels all the time.

Or if you are really crazy, you can stamp boul and water guild.....
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Bear, does the leaf need any over coat to keep it from tarnishing?
 

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No covere coat if you use real gold - it won't tarnish. That is why we use it. But, if you don't usually do gilding, and this is a one-time project, you may find it a pain to do this, unless you want to develop the skills for future use.

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Baer- I have used rubber stamps and embossing powders. Gives an effect similar to thermographed business card printing. I would like to try this Duo. Where do you get it?
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Though I haven't tried it, I understand that acrylic media works as an adhesive for stamped designs that you want to leaf, as well as for leafing bevels etc.
 

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Wally- Do you mean acrylic gel medium, such as can be used for fabric-wrapping mats and liners? Never tried it for leafing adhesive before. It is some handy stuff. I also use it as a binder for making pads of paper for order forms, scratch pads, etc.
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tHE RUBBER STAMP IDEA IS PERFECT. I JUST CHECKED BLICK & UNITED FOR DUO AND COULD NOT FIND IT ANY LEADS ON A SOURCE? ALSO ANY CUSTOM STAMP WEBSITES YOU'VE TRIED? tHIS IS A GREAT HELP IN WHAT HAS BEEN A FRUSTRATING ENDEVOUR.
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Joe, I'm not sure exactly what this Duo is, but try going to a stamping supply shop and buying a blank embossing pad. What they sell as embossing "ink" is some kind of gel, which is prob. similar to the gloss medium. You stamp on a clear but sticky image. I then sprinkle on the embossing powder and then tap or blow off the excess, but for leaf I would just let it dry a bit till it's just tacky then try applying the leaf. Once burnished, you can brush away any excess. The embossing powder is heat-set but I imagine pressure does it for the leaf. Experiment on different mat surfaces. Some will accept these treatments better than others.
Have fun.
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I think they call these pads "clear" embossing pads. The ink usually has a tint to it which fades after it is embossed but helpful for placement purposes. I never tried it with leaf. Gonna try tommorrow.

There is also a product from office supply places which is a heat transfer metallic foil which adheres only to toner. It is set with heat from a laminator (or maybe a mount press).

I have some but haven't made any Xeroxes (toner prints) since I got my own ink jet printer. One of those things I have been meaning to try.
 

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Rick, the little bottle of Duo is at the shop. But I got it at a scrapebook store....

I kept my head down and refuse to look at ANYTHING! I had called ahead and they had the Duo and some cheap metal leaf waiting at the counter for me.... right next to the.....AAAArrrrgghhhh! It was $48 getting out of that damnd place.
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I like the embossing powder idea too. I have one of those super heat sticks for doing fabric wrapped scooped liners.... and fast drying gesso.... LOL.
 

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Rick, Hugh Phibbs did a class on decorative preservation framing some years ago in Las Vegas where he use the acrylic gel media to attach leaf to a mat board. He then scored the mat in 1/16" wide stripes and peeled the leaf (now attached to the surface paper of the mat) to add leafed pin stripes to a "French" mat. The advantage of the two step approach was that you could use metal leaf and patinate it prior to applying to the finished mat.
I made the extrapolation that the gel media could be used in a stamping process.
 

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I tried the gel medium as a base for leaf - it worked, but not very well with a stamp. I have to "play" some more - maybe with drying dimes, etc.

So, Baer - what ELSE did you buy at the scrapbook store?????
 

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The wifes question was more like:

"What the **** could you spend 138 ******* dollars on in that ******* **** **** of a *********, and still not bring dinner to the ****** table before 7 ******* at *** **** night?"

I don't remember what I bought THAT time, but I do know that it's hiding out at the shop. <font size=1>Along with the other stuff.</font>
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I just thought of a good reason to try to use leaf rather than gold embossing powder on matting. It has been my experience that unless sealed with something like Krylon spray, gold embossing is the ONLY embossing color that TARNISHES over time - even under glass! It turns dark bronze color. I found this out AFTER I bought a half pound of gold embossing powder!
 

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Well I feel I nshould weight in on my results. We have tried both gel and #802 gold size with dutch metal and 22k. The sharpest clean look was with the 802 and 22k. The gel had a trickier drying time and would not go down smooth enough for a sharp look. We spread the size on glass to tack up then lifted it with the rubber stamp. The size was then applied to the rising rag board. The leaf was then placed on the size and burnished. after a curing time the excess was buffed off. We get the actual stamps for the logo next week.
Baer I never could find Duo can you give me the info on the back of your bottle.
Thanks to everyone this was a big help.
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Joe, and all interested. Brought the (%$^^*(*&%$ bottle home.

Duo: Embellishing Adhesive "Dries to a clear tacky surface, suitable for adhering gild, dry pigments and for use as a repositionable, acid free adhesive."

Made for USArtQuest, Inc. Grass Lake, MI 49240

Conforms to ASTM D 4236

30ml $5.50

USArtQuest

Hope this helps.
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