Working on a glass display idea. Same image, mats, and frame with 6 different glasses. Chose the image as it has cold tones, warm tones, white, and lots of black to show reflections. Still trying to work out the best display lighting to highlight the differences among the glasses. Will also add signage. Have any of you done this and do you have any suggestions? I'll be interested in seeing customer reaction. Also helps us understand the various glasses and choose our own favourite.
Opinions Wanted Glass Display Idea
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PaulSF
PFG, Picture Framing God
To save on space and materials, you might consider doing what Tru Vue does, by putting two different kinds of glass side by side in one frame. Then you will only need three frames.
If you want to dramatize your multiple glazing choices and if you have plenty of wall space, then the plan should work well.
However, there's really no reason to display both Museum Glass and AR, since they look the same and their only difference is the UV coating on MG. The same is true for Conservation Clear and Premium Clear; the only difference is the UV coating, which has no significant effect on appearance.
However, there's really no reason to display both Museum Glass and AR, since they look the same and their only difference is the UV coating on MG. The same is true for Conservation Clear and Premium Clear; the only difference is the UV coating, which has no significant effect on appearance.
Rob Markoff
PFG, Picture Framing God
Jin- I thought at our last Tru-Vue telecon, there was some discussion that there are optical correctors in the new CC film that gives truer color rendering with CC glass over regular clear glass. Did I misunderstand?
The display is only 40" wide by 30" high.
We find we are having longer discussions with customers about glass. We specifically discuss glass form 2 points of view: First being reflections and second being protection. Customers are more interested in reflections. We give best advise on protection but it's up to the customer to decide how much to spend. I want to show each glass we sell individually so the customer can clearly look at the choice rather than talk about it. I don't want to tell them that Museum and AR look the same, I want to show them. Glass has become a far more important decision for the customer and a large consequence on the price. I also want them to know their favourite glass by name so they ask for it.
We find we are having longer discussions with customers about glass. We specifically discuss glass form 2 points of view: First being reflections and second being protection. Customers are more interested in reflections. We give best advise on protection but it's up to the customer to decide how much to spend. I want to show each glass we sell individually so the customer can clearly look at the choice rather than talk about it. I don't want to tell them that Museum and AR look the same, I want to show them. Glass has become a far more important decision for the customer and a large consequence on the price. I also want them to know their favourite glass by name so they ask for it.
If you do a group of frames like this you will find it very interesting to look at - color of the art, saturation of the art, reflections and more.
We have spent far too much time looking at these in discussion.
How to light art - how high to hang it - lots of issues come up.
In our shop there are people from 4'-9 to 6" tall and amazing different viewpoints of the art, lighting, and glass.
It was clear at first glance which showed color best, but I won't tell - it's only our opinion. For comparison I also framed one without glass but it's just for our viewing - we want to sell glass.
We have spent far too much time looking at these in discussion.
How to light art - how high to hang it - lots of issues come up.
In our shop there are people from 4'-9 to 6" tall and amazing different viewpoints of the art, lighting, and glass.
It was clear at first glance which showed color best, but I won't tell - it's only our opinion. For comparison I also framed one without glass but it's just for our viewing - we want to sell glass.
Jeff Rodier
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I am curious as to which glass you found to be closest to the one with no glass as far as the art and matting are concerned.
Framar
WOW Framer
I think this idea would also be cool to try with a white mat and light colored artwork.
Do we want a green image, a pink image, a purple image?????
There is a reason TV uses dark colors in their displays.......
Do we want a green image, a pink image, a purple image?????
There is a reason TV uses dark colors in their displays.......
We are going to continue working on glass displays including making a set with light art and white mats. There's no doubt that glass choice will vary with the specific framing project. Another reason why I don't intend to reveal my choice of glass as it may change depending on art and mats.
We will be the glass expert in our market - makes customers talk about us - the best advertising.
The same TV displays are in every shop - we'll be different - we always want to be different.
We will be the glass expert in our market - makes customers talk about us - the best advertising.
The same TV displays are in every shop - we'll be different - we always want to be different.
Bob Doyle
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I think it is a good idea to show the AR and Museum, especially over time. The AR would fade, tight? as it has no UV protection. Be interesting to see if the AR fades faster than regular clear glass, if the extra clarity lets more light through....
To "save on wall space" the examples don't have to be all together, they could be interspersed among art for sale. Then you could walk the customer around the gallery space and say "see here next to this origanl artwork is the Museum glass. Why yes this piece by Pat is wonderful, would you like me to add it to your order?"
Just had a new customer walk in wanting Non Glare on their TK prints (glass replacement). Saw the display and instead of one NONGlare order just sold 2 pieces of Museum Glass Get that display up quickly!!
To "save on wall space" the examples don't have to be all together, they could be interspersed among art for sale. Then you could walk the customer around the gallery space and say "see here next to this origanl artwork is the Museum glass. Why yes this piece by Pat is wonderful, would you like me to add it to your order?"
Just had a new customer walk in wanting Non Glare on their TK prints (glass replacement). Saw the display and instead of one NONGlare order just sold 2 pieces of Museum Glass
Get that display up quickly!!The fading issue is a big piece of this project. Same image, same light, be interesting to see when and if fading is noticable. We'll be noting the dates on the pieces.
I printed the images so know those details as well.
When moved out front these pieces will be able to be picked off the wall and taken to the design tables as needed for a sales tool.
I printed the images so know those details as well.
When moved out front these pieces will be able to be picked off the wall and taken to the design tables as needed for a sales tool.
Bob Doyle
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
I had my display in a window, facing out. Split pane of regular and con clear on a newspaper photo. Only took a month to get a good degree of fade on it
Of course you're right, Rob. The color-correcting film on CC renders truer color than Premium Clear, and water-white with no coatings may still be the best in terms of color rendition. But for most people, how important are those slight differences?
Even for people who care about accurate color rendition, there is no perfect solution for that issue. The color of the light in a typical room might affect the rendition of colors more than the tint of the glass, and some colors show more accurately than others through various types of glazing. The nature of the pigments & dyes is involved, as well. In any case, light damage over time -- perhaps not much time -- would surely affect the colors more than any tint of the glass, or lack of it.
David Hewitt
MGF, Master Grumble Framer
Years back when Museum Glass first came out, TRU-VUE had several
contests on glass displays. One 1st. place winner was a shadow
box (10x 24) with bright colored fish at different levels. Museum,
non glare,& clear were displayed.
Several years later, another contest, & its 1st. place winner was
three doll dresses & again the 3 glasses. But this time two dresses
showed discoloration & fading that were not covered by the
protective glass.
contests on glass displays. One 1st. place winner was a shadow
box (10x 24) with bright colored fish at different levels. Museum,
non glare,& clear were displayed.
Several years later, another contest, & its 1st. place winner was
three doll dresses & again the 3 glasses. But this time two dresses
showed discoloration & fading that were not covered by the
protective glass.
FramerDave
PFG, Picture Framing God
You're making it too complicated. Choice is good but too many choices leads to confusion. Just my opinion.
This is a little off subject, but Tru Vue just sent me a new display. It has Cons clear, Museum and Non Glare. It has helped me sell more museum glass than I've ever sold. I had 2 other small displays with regular and Museum glass in them that I placed in opposite ends of the room. I am now able to point out that no matter where you stand in the room, you can barely see the Museum glass, which sells it almost every time.
Bandsaw, I like your display!
Bandsaw, I like your display!
Be careful with that claim. The optical coatings are most effective when viewed from a perpendicular angle -- that is, straight on. As the viewing angle increases as the observer moves to the side, the anti-reflection feature diminishes, until it goes away completely at about a 60 degree viewing angle.
So, if the frame is to hang in a hallway or other location where the normal view is from a steep angle, the optical quality may not be fully appreciated.
Don't ask how I know that.
Pat Murphey
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Be careful with that claim. The optical coatings are most effective when viewed from a perpendicular angle -- that is, straight on. As the viewing angle increases as the observer moves to the side, the anti-reflection feature diminishes, until it goes away completely at about a 60 degree viewing angle.
So, if the frame is to hang in a hallway or other location where the normal view is from a steep angle, the optical quality may not be fully appreciated.
Don't ask how I know that.
That's the reason that I always ask about the hanging location. It's also true that you will see a reflection from a window or bright light directly across from the art. I have samples in my shop to demonstrate that, although you will still see a reflection, it is substantially reduced. An informed customer is far less likely to regret the extra expense.