Giclee on canvas

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A customer has brought in two Tom Fritz giclees on canvas. He wants them double matted with glass like two I did previously that were on paper.

I know there has been a lot said on this topic before, especially about stretching but we really don't want the extra thickness of a stretcher.

I need to know how you mount or hinge these, or do we just have to live with the extra thickness of a stretcher?
 
we often mount them (as well as canvas transfers) to gator with miracle muck, or equivalent. then, trim to size.
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You can also hinge the canvas like you would a heavy piece of paper.

Canvas giclees have a unique problem, in that some of them (who knows which ones?) have a brittle surface, which will crack at the edges during stretching. And some of them have inadequate coatings to retard fading. And some of them are still moisture sensitive, despite coating -- especially if the coating deteriorates over time.

So, hinging, mats & glazing is really a better frame design when the customer doesn't want it to look like "a painting".
 
Perhaps another way to mount the canvas (as long as the sides are not painted) would be to sew it down like you would a t shirt and cover the edges with the mat board. Has anyone ever done this before?
Angie
 
Angie,

Yes that is how we do a canvas if the customer wants mats on it. Sew it down to an acid free foamboard with a rag mat inbetween the canvas and the foam to give it a little more to hold on to.

Works great.
 
Originally posted by Jim Miller:

So, hinging, mats & glazing is really a better frame design when the customer doesn't want it to look like "a painting".
Thanks everyone for your replies!

Jim,
Hinging sounds OK, but what about the weight of the canvas. What type of hinges do you use?

I use Gudy 808 adhesive to make my own sticky foamboards and this product has a carrier inside that prevents any acid migration. Canvas can also be removed from it relatively easily, so what do you think about using that for these canvases?
 
Hello JIM miller,

Could Super 77 spray mount be used to mount that canvas to foamcore. Most people do not want to have canvas behind glass!!!
 
try fc/perfectmount---pop it in vacuum @110*/10min...weight over night...put it intoframe---works well
 
Back in August, I had a canvas giclee to frame with mats and glass. It wasn't very big - only about 13"x17" with not enough canvas to stretch around stretcher bars. I tried hinging it (put a couple of t-hinges at the top using mulberry paper and Nori paste) and it looked great... for a couple of days. It hadn't been picked up when I noticed that the canvas had started to wave/buckle. It had been quite humid those few days. Luckily, I noticed the problem before the customer came to pick it up. I had time to take it apart and re-do it by sewing (just like how Tim said he does it) and it seemed to stay flat this time. I don't think I had the glass/mat/backing package installed too tightly in the frame, but perhaps I did. :shrug:

Any other explanations for my buckling problem when I hinged it?
 
Hello JIM miller,

Could Super 77 spray mount be used to mount that canvas to foamcore. Most people do not want to have canvas behind glass!!!

Aw Geez, Alister. You just hit two of my hotbuttons in the same sentence. I can't recall that ever happening before, but not to worry. I'll get over it eventually... OK, I'm over it.

1. I don't care to use 3M #77 for any mounting. Aside from its toxicity and overspray issues, the adhesive deteriorates and fails in a relatively short time.

2. If that image were giclee-printed on paper, glass would be recommended, right? Glazing -- whether glass or acrylic, provides the same benefits for canvas-borne images that it provides for paper-borne images. For example, protection from light damage, mechanical damage, soiling, chemical reaction with airborne contaminants, accellerated aging due to expansion/contraction cycles.
 
Depending on your customers preference, and reported value of the piece, dry-mounting has worked well for me. My last was a 24x28. I used Fusion 4000 in rag board that had itself been dry-mounted with fusion to 3/16 FC. It came out perfect.
 
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