Gel on prints

[5th corner]

Hi guys,

This one is about Gel on Prints.

You know maken em look like paintings.

Should they have a finish guard put on them first?

Should they be mounted to something other than foam board?

And how much should one charge for such a finish? (proper painted look, not just rolled on?)

Oh and by the way does anyone know how much UV protection this gel stuff actually provides? (Z-Gel or are there other ones to use that are better?)

Couldn't find anything in the archives so thought i would post.

Thanks in advance Sam :kaffeetrinker_2:

 

[Lance E]

We spray them with Clearjet first (in a proper spray booth, nasty nasty stuff) but you can go straight onto them depending on how they are produced, if they run it might make for an interesting effect as well... With the Clearjet they did not fade as fast as without. I use a Likwitex product (despite their cursed use of the banished letter).

We charge a flat rate of $25 for anything up to 36x24.

I do this before mounting or stretching onto strainer frames.

 

[HB]

We put it straight on
Brush both ways first as a canvas look alike sealer - let dry & stroke to yer harts content. we use foamcore

Take note though - there is question whether it is legal for us to modify the original image!

 

[HB]

As for charging - why ask us? (with respect). You should charge everything what works for you. You shoulk know your shop rate - use it. If a 16 x 20 takes you usually 1/2 hr - charge 1/2 x hourly rate plus the materials used (include waste).

I don't understand why this question always comes up?

 

[5th corner]

Thanks HB and Lance E

That is helpful. Is using a clear gel to replacate an image on an open edition paper print modifying it?

Oh the question about the charge. I work for someone and it is not alway easy to get a non framer to understand things. I had that idea in mind but just wanted to see what was accepted practice in the framing comunity. I am not sure they know what there shop rate is. I think they have one but I am not sure they have it correct. Years ago in a differnt shop worked on a rate of $60 a minute which has been mentioned on here before i think............and it was easily divisable by the minute............but yes everyones is different cause of overheads ............and that was years ago.

I guess the question is a bit like what does an artist charge to paint...........and I guess that depends on how well known they are....................I would imagine they don't get paid for their time spent less they well known?

 

[stud d]

$60 a minute

I guess we know that you are good, I think I have only heard of one profession that can get those types of prices...gosh you must be the best on your block.

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i know you meant hour, just be goofy

 

[5th corner]

yep sorry meant hour which is a dollar a minute

 

[Jim Miller]

In our shop these projects are always open-edition lithographs -- we wouldn't do it to anything of value or non-replaceable. Generally they are large and sometimes creased/wrinkled.

For jobs of that description, we mount to Gatorfoam or MightyCore, which will not warp. For small pieces, foam center board would be OK, I guess.

Then we apply canvas-finish or linen-finish UV-filtering PVC laminate, and coat that with the gel and add brushstrokes.

The UV-filtering laminating film is the only source of light protection, as far as I know. I don't recall how much UV light it filters, but I know it is much less effective than UV-filtering glass.