Framing Wire Angles

Framerguy

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This was posted on the Hitchhikers the other day and I was impressed enough that I copied it to post here. It really gives food for thought on what angle a wire should be placed on the frame package. I cannot verify the accuracy of this information but I thought it would interest some of you.

If you are not a PPFA member or don't get the HH, you may find this information helpful.

Someone recently asked about the correct placement of screweyes/ D rings.

I have a chart hanging on the wall that explains the amount of force
placed
on the screweye based on the angle of the wire.
It says:

For any size frame weighing 10lbs.

at 60&#186 the force =6lbs
at 45&#186 ' ' =7lbs
at 30&#186 ' ' = 10lbs
at 15&#186 ' ' =19lbs
at 10&#186 ' ' =29lbs
at 5&#186 ' ' =57lbs
at2&#186 ' ' = 143lbs

The formula used to compute the amount of force is:
Force= 1/2 weightdivided by the sine of angle

Mike Yager,CPF TM
Hobby Lobby
Lewisville,TX

I have had framing come into my shop for refitting/rematting that has the wire almost tight from one screw eye to another! If these figures are accurate, that is one heck of a strain on the frame, screw eyes, and wire!!

I don't know if Mike is a Grumbler but I would like to thank him for this helpful tidbit of information.

Framerguy
 
Originally posted by Framerguy:
If these figures are accurate, that is one heck of a strain on the frame, screw eyes, and wire!!

Framerguy
It's also the amount of force pushing the bottom corners of the frame apart.

That's why I like HookUps. (Am I their only fan? No one else ever mentions them.)

Kit
 
HookUps are like D-rings but adjustable. If you (or the customer) don't get the hooks in the wall perfectly level, you can screw the HookUp up or down to level the piece. They hold up to 100 pounds and are very easy to install on either wood or metal frames. Available from United Manufacturors (click on logo at the top of main forum page.) I DO NOT get a kick back for this.

Maybe I should speak to the nice people at United about that?

Kit
 
Kit,

You don't use wire with the hookups, do you?

I thought they were good for mirrors. Haven't used them myself, but I may start.
 
Kit, I received my first batch of Hook Ups from United a week ago and used them a few days later. I am a big fan of Wall Buddies but, for this particular application, the Hook Ups were greatly superior.

I did the same thing I do with Wall Buddies: I made a corrugated template so the customer can place it on the wall where she wants the top of the frame to be, mark through two holes for the hook placement and never need a tape measure.

Hook Ups will become a regular part of my hardware arsenal. Thanks for the tip, Kit.
 
The chart and other info on hanging art with wire can be found in the FACTS standard with that title on the FACTS web pages at <http://www.artffacts.org> This important stuff and lots more is there too. Support FACTS!

Greg Fremstad
Frame Tek, Inc.
Eugene OR
 
I made a corrugated template so the customer can place it on the wall where she wants the top of the frame to be, mark through two holes for the hook placement and never need a tape measure.

Ron -

Would you describe in detail or sketch out or photograph your corrugated template
for the rest of the group? It sounds like a nifty item to give to customers to assist them in properly hanging their frames.

Thanks.

Mike
 
I could do that, Mike.

Would you prefer a photo or 1,000 words?

I'll do that tomorrow at the shop. It's no big deal, really, and it's a good way to use up all that corrugated cardboard we pull out of the re-do's from John Ranes' shop across town. :D
 
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