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Framing A old newspaper

framer1

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I'm framing a very old newspaper and thought about putting it between mylar or between two pieces of glass. Suggestions welcome.
 

Jim Miller

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Newsprint is engineered and manufactured to last about a week. It's generally loaded with debris, lignin, and other contaminants. As such, exposure to light can greatly accelerate its deterioration.

Note that older newsprint (say, prior to WWII) was made better than modern newsprint, so an older newspaper would degrade more slowly. Even if this old newspaper is good condition now, after years of storage, it may discolor and disintegrate rather quickly if framed and exposed to any amount of light. UV filtering helps, of course, but does nothing to stop the damage from visible light.

I suggest framing a high-quality digital reproduction of the front page, with pages from yesterday's newspaper underneath, to give the appearance of the whole newspaper. Framing a reproduction would greatly simplify the framing, since preservation features would be unnecessary. In that case, just glue down the new parts.

Framing a reproduction may end up being cheaper than preservation-framing the original, even after the cost of reproduction. And the owner can keep the original in an archival, sealed container.
 
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echavez123

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Reproduction is always my suggestion. There are some real benefits.
1) Can set the white point to make the newspaper look "fresh" off the press
2) Easy to remove creases and stains.
3) Easy to reformat columns
4) Easy to make the black print, really black
5) Much easier to mount the reproduction

The best selling feature is the reproduction is rate at 75+ year life. The newspaper will last about a month.
 

neilframer

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Reproduction is always my suggestion. There are some real benefits.
1) Can set the white point to make the newspaper look "fresh" off the press
2) Easy to remove creases and stains.
3) Easy to reformat columns
4) Easy to make the black print, really black
5) Much easier to mount the reproduction
The best selling feature is the reproduction is rate at 75+ year life. The newspaper will last about a month.
One suggestion about making a reproduction or copy.
Whenever we frame an original newspaper, we put a black or dark gray mat behind it so you don't see the printing on the other side of the page.
This also applies to making a copy, put a black or dark gray mat behind it when copying or scanning or the printing on the other side might also be reproduced and be visible.
 
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Dave

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If you dry mount the original to a black board it is surprising how the original paper will hold up. I have a framed copy of a newspaper with color photos of an article written about our store from 1969. Other than a slight discoloration it's in perfect shape even though it was in unheated storage for a couple years and was in no way archivally framed. Corrugated cardboard backing, mounted with tissue to a black papermat acidic board and pressed up against regular plexiglass in a gold Nielson #11 frame... surprised 50 years later it still looks good.

The suggestion of making a copy and framing the copy is obviously the first choice, however if a customer insists on framing the original it can be done.
 
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Freddy L

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Deacidification products is something to look into if you want to frame the original newspaper. Making an electronic copy is wise as well but may need to be scanned in sections unless you have access to a high mp camera. Even then, if the newspaper is very important, I'd go full out on glass.

https://www.carrmclean.ca/bookkeeperr-deacidification.html
 

Larry Peterson

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One of the issues in reproducing the newspaper is that it still needs to look like a newspaper. Printing it on white paper takes away from that newspaper "look".

I had this problem a while back when I was framing nine copies of a multi-part article. The problem was that one piece was ruined by dry mounting and they didn't have more.

Scanning it wasn't an issue since newspapers are low density. A 300 dpi scan was more than enough. I probably could have gotten by with a 150 dpi scan. The problem was matching the new part to the existing ones. No matter how I tried to manipulate the background it didn't look like the others.

I posted my problem with this here on theG and Andrew Lenz came to my rescue. The solution; print it on newsprint. That saved my bacon. I had told the customer about it and when they received their frames, they couldn't tell which one it was.

Here is that thread. http://www.thegrumble.com/index.php?threads/scanning-a-newspaper-to-match.80125/

BTW, I scanned and printed it on an everyday Epson WF-7620 4 color ink jet.
 

Rick Granick

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Larry, if you print it on newsprint paper, wouldn't it be subject to the same degradation issues as the original?


...in no way archivally framed. Corrugated cardboard backing, mounted with tissue to a black papermat acidic...
Being newsprint, it probably THOUGHT this WAS archival treatment.
:rolleyes: Rick
 

Rick Granick

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For framing newspaper or magazine articles, I usually go over to FedEx next door and run color copies and frame those. Today's color copiers do a pretty good job of reproducing the look of the newspint paper if you use the right settings. They even have a machine that does big oversize copies, so you can feed in a whole front page to the roller scanner.
:cool: rick
 

Dave

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Larry, if you print it on newsprint paper, wouldn't it be subject to the same degradation issues as the original?
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:rolleyes: Rick
It would degrade similarly to the other newspaper section from the multi-part original. :)
 

Jim Miller

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Larry, if you print it on newsprint paper, wouldn't it be subject to the same degradation issues as the original?
Yes, it would. But since it is just a copy, it's no problem. Also, an additional copy or two could be made as future replacements or for other uses - customer should appreciate that. Meanwhile, the original can be kept safe in an archival storage container, where its deterioration would be minimized.
 
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