Question Framing a Military Burial Flag with Additional Mat Openings

Zebrawolf

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Hello, all. I'm a newbie and in need of help in the framing of a 5'x10' military burial flag. My customer wants a traditional triangular shape with the field of stars showing, along with the cover and inside of the funeral program (two openings about 4"x5") spaced below the flag using a single mat and a shadow box frame. The folded flag is about 5" thick, so I'm thinking I should refold it into a rectagular shape so I don't have to use such a deep shadow box frame. This is a new challenge for me, as I am accustomed to framing simple 2-dimensional artwork with double mats. (told you I was a newbie!). This is something you guys probably do all the time, but this is my first one. Where would I find some good step-by-step procedures for mounting/attaching and framing this monster? Total dimesions of the finished piece, minus the frame, is about 24"x28". Thanks!
 
Although there are no Flag Code provisions requiring any particular method, the traditional method of folding the flag is outlined here.

Tradition also sets the meaning of the flag folds along with actual program for folding the flag.

(A) Straighten out the flag to full length and fold lengthwise once.

(B) Fold it lengthwise a second time to meet the open edge, making sure that the union of stars on the blue field remains outward in full view. (A large flag may have to be folded lengthwise a third time.)

(C) A triangular fold is then started by bringing the striped corner of the folded edge to the open edge.

(D) The outer point is then turned inward, parallel with the open edge, to form a second triangle.

(E) The diagonal or triangular folding is continued toward the blue union until the end is reached, with only the blue showing and the form being that of a cocked (three corner) hat.

Meaning of Flag Folding Program

The flag folding ceremony represents the same religious principles on which our great country was originally founded.

The portion of the flag denoting honor is the canton of blue containing the stars representing states our veterans served in uniform. The canton field of blue dresses from left to right and is inverted only when draped as a pall on the casket of a veteran who has served our country honorably in uniform.

In the Armed Forces of the United States, at the ceremony of retreat, the flag is lowered, folded in a triangle fold and kept under watch throughout the night as a tribute to our nation’s honored dead. The next morning it is brought out and, at the ceremony of reveille, run aloft as a symbol of our belief in the resurrection of the body.
Symbols for the folds of the Flag

The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life.
The second fold is a symbol of our belief in the eternal life.

The third fold is made in honor and remembrance of the veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion of life for the defense of our country to attain peace throughout the world.

The fourth fold represents our weaker nature; for as American citizens trusting in God, it is to Him we turn in times of peace, as well as in times of war, for His divine guidance.

The fifth fold is a tribute to our country, for in the words of Stephen Decatur, “Our country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right, but it is still our country, right or wrong.”

The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

The seventh fold is a tribute to our Armed Forces, for it is through the Armed Forces that we protect our country and our flag against all enemies, whether they be found within or without the boundaries of our republic.

The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on Mother’s Day.

The ninth fold is a tribute to womanhood, for it has been through their faith, love, loyalty and devotion that the character of the men and women who have made this country great have been molded.

The tenth fold is a tribute to father, for he, too, has given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since he or she was first born.

The eleventh fold, in the eyes of Hebrew citizens, represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies, in their eyes, the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The twelfth fold, in the eyes of a Christian citizen, represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies, in their eyes, God the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost.

When the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, “In God We Trust.”

After the flag is completely folded and tucked in, it takes on the appearance, of a cocked hat, ever reminding us of the soldiers who served under General George Washington and the sailors and marines who served under Captain John Paul Jones who were followed by their comrades and shipmates in the Armed Forces of the United States, preserving for us the rights, privileges, and freedoms we enjoy today.
 
I've never "tacked down" the flag. (I know you didn't use those words!) I have built a fome board box for the flag to sit in and attached the box to the backing of the shadowbox.

I have refolded a flag for a customer. But then the flags came in unfolded. Treat it with the respect you would show the soldier.
 
ONce you figure out this folding thingy or whatever you are going to do.................
You can always mount the flag in the corner of the shadowbox.....I've done it before with gator.........in the bottom left of the box......just use the angle of the corner and put the flag there...make the gator the same depth of ur shadowbox.....
I never even tacked it down.........GOOD LUCK! ;)
 
You might also want to check out Spartacraft. They make flag cases and shadowboxes for militaria. Google 'em.
If you unfold the flag, be careful of spent bullet casings. If there was a gun salute at the burial, they will sometimes tuck the casings in the flag as they fold it.
 
Folding an American Flag as a square or rectangle is considered bad form and slightly disrespectful. Step by step in instructions with illustrations are here

It is also a breach of etiquette to unfold a flag that has been presented at a funeral.

Since attaching/mounting a folded flag is tricky, rather than construct a frame from scratch, you might check out a ready-made flag display box and work from there. There are lots of other distributors if you do a Google search.
 
I do a Lot of these as my husband is county commander of the American legion here., and also serves on the honor guard.

leave the flag folded in the triangle it is the last show of respect from military men to a fallen fellow. when you frame it do not let any red show. That is a sign of disrespect called a bleeding flag. if at all possible the three stars on the flag should be in a straight line. however if family wants flag to remain as presented do not refold to accomplish that.

here is a early one i did
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Thank you Uncle Eli for the info...too many of us forget the great symbolisms that are in military traditions.

If ever I have had to refold a flag (because it came in unfolded or the family requested it to be refolded), I call upon my military friends to help me out. They treat the flag with all the respect and honor.

As for attaching the flag in a shadow box, I have sewn it to the back mat. This allows for the presentation to be in the upper left corner or at the base of the frame.
 
My avitar is another option. I don't fasten the flag at all. Just build a pocket around it with foamcore and sandwich in between the mats and backing board.
 
Thank you all very much for your advice and for enlightening me! I was ignorant of the fact that each fold represented something so significant about the people who fought and died for our freedom. Great ideas! You guys rock!:smiley:
 
It is also a breach of etiquette to unfold a flag that has been presented at a funeral.

That's a well known fact. I have noticed a trend of people unfolding it to put spent rifle casings into the fold of the flag. I don't think it's by the book but has become common.

Those folding the flag originally should have pride in their task but accidents happen. I do not think it disrespectful to refold the flag for permanent display if there is a good reason for it. Of coarse I would only do that with permission.

I wonder if your customer is familiar with all the reasons why a flag is folded the way it is. If they are and wanted to fold it like a paper mache pterodactyl I probably wouldn't do it for them, but would frame it after they had.
 
The two spent casing were supposed to be put in there to begin with. They stand for Honor & Duty. (not god and country).

Burying and folding and presenting to the family are the last thing their country does for the fallen and should be honored as such.
 
This manual has more than you will ever want to know about the flag. http://home.att.net/~condocat/manuals/mspflagbook.pdf

In it there is this statement.

"The flag is usually lifted from the coffin and folded during, or immediately following, the 3-volley rifle salute and the sounding of Taps. Placing spent shell casings into the fold of a Military Funeral Flag violates provisions of the United States Flag Code."
 
This manual has more than you will ever want to know about the flag. http://home.att.net/~condocat/manuals/mspflagbook.pdf

In it there is this statement.

"The flag is usually lifted from the coffin and folded during, or immediately following, the 3-volley rifle salute and the sounding of Taps. Placing spent shell casings into the fold of a Military Funeral Flag violates provisions of the United States Flag Code."

That's quite a thorough guide. I've seen all the information before, but never in one place.

I thought this was interesting:

The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature.

In other words, don't put logos or a list of the 9/11 victims on it. Don't sign it either. As I mentioned in an article last year, I know a lot of us have framed flags signed by service members serving overseas. They really shouldn't, but I'm not going to be the one to tell them that.

The flag should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkins or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard.

I suppose a case could be made that the USPS shouldn't issue flag stamps, since the image of the flag will be defaced and eventually thrown away.

Finally, this:

PLEASE NOTE ... [FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]The popular [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Meaning of the 13 Folds of the U.S. Flag [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]that has been circulating for years has no basis in historical fact or Military tradition. The 13 folds of the flag represent the 13 original American colonies and nothing else. Based on numerous rulings by the U.S. Supreme Court, the religious references of the [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]Meaning of the 13 Folds of the U.S. Flag [/FONT][/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman][FONT=Times New Roman,Times New Roman]would likely be found unconstitutional if sanctioned by the Federal government or any State government.
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Sometimes it helps to go to the source. I spoke with a representative at Arlington National Cemetery's Internment Services Branch. She told me that no, the honor guard does not place shell casings from the 21-gun salute into the folded flag, nor does each fold of the flag carry a specific meaning.

I would think that they are a good authority.
 
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Did you by any chance get her name & job title?
 
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