Question Framers from Florida....

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My fellow framers from Florida i have 2 questions for you:
1) A friend is opening a restaurant (i dont know in wich Florida town) and he wants me to make him all the canvases. My question is what is the going framers rate on canvas transfers in your state (here its the 2 sides x 0.80cdn$)?
2)And my second question is: will the bars warp do to the climat?
I mean i dont want him calling me and complaining that the canvas is deformed. What should i watch out so i could do a good job for him?
Now for those that are wondering why give the order to someone in Montreal vs Florida , the answer is that they are all Greek canvases that i import every year from my trip to Greece and he is opening a Greek restaurant. All his family is here and they will bring them to him when they visit.
Thanks in advance.:beer:
 
My fellow framers from Florida i have 2 questions for you:
1) A friend is opening a restaurant (i dont know in wich Florida town) and he wants me to make him all the canvases. My question is what is the going framers rate on canvas transfers in your state (here its the 2 sides x 0.80cdn$)?
2)And my second question is: will the bars warp do to the climat?
I mean i dont want him calling me and complaining that the canvas is deformed. What should i watch out so i could do a good job for him?
Now for those that are wondering why give the order to someone in Montreal vs Florida , the answer is that they are all Greek canvases that i import every year from my trip to Greece and he is opening a Greek restaurant. All his family is here and they will bring them to him when they visit.
Thanks in advance.:beer:

In your #1 I'm a bit confused. Are they canvases that your stretching or prints that your tranferring to canvas? If it's just stretching are you doing regular stretches or gallery wraps? As for your #2, it depends on the resturaunt. Is it a normal inside eating area resturaunt? or an open air, patio deck style? are there going to be any of these placed close to a frequently used door that leads to the outside?
 
Some are posters transfered on canvas and some will be printed directly on canvas but either or will then be stretched but not gallerie wraps just regular with black mat tape. Now for the second part i realy dont know yet but i will ask him if there will be a terasse like section.
But lets say there isnt a frequent door opening what would you do?
And if there is then again what would you do?
Is there anything special i should consider?
Here i have done many restaurants and only one piece had a problem but i fixed it.:confused:
 
Well, for public outdoor areas, especially when children have access to it, I make the stretcher frame as normal. then I take the inside dimensions of the stretcher and I cut a 1/4 inch plywood or the likes and I side staple it into place about a 1/4 inch in from the side the canvas is going to be stretched on. This makes it so pointy little fingers can't poke holes in it. Then I just give it a couple coats of marine varnish and stretch the canvas as normal. If your doing tranfsers though, I don't stretch those anymore. I used to, but now I use a rag mat, size it to the image, and mount the canvas to it first, then I just hand pull the canvas around the stretcher bars and staple it around. And of course I cross brace the frames to make them stronger also. But for inside normal usage, I just use a good quality stretcher bar.
 
will the bars warp do to the climat?


you gonna frame them or just get 'em nailed to the wall?(former 'helps' keep straight--latter is almost a guarenteed "lift off the wall' some--wet wood/ambient humidity)
YES, I have had some do the 'twisty' thing and NO, most times everything will be 'ok' ..... BUT those w/o frames will have a tendency to skew if not in a/c'd area(sometimes even IN a/c but that is most likely 'new' wood). I had one in my gallery 3 years ago(artist's framed piece) that warped 6" out from the wall(at one corner) and had to reframe it as it would not be 'beaten' into submission within the frame(it was too lightweight to put stress on)---this was, obviously, worst case kinda stuff---I am in Tampa area(central west coast 35 mi from the coast)! conditions will, also, vary with the locations---where is cust. going??? If SE/keys/costal city I would do everything I could to convince them of FRAMING! I'm wondering if completely urethaning the bars would help this situation enough to make it worth the trouble(assuming the wood is properly D R Y when joined).......anyone down here do that as a routine????
 
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