Ron, I do mean closed corner. If anyone uses JFM, I want something similar to their numbers 051-2032, 328G, and 051-2022 for starters. Honestly, if I can find readymades out of 3.5-5" wide moulding in a fairly flat profile I would be happy with that as well. I sell these for a lot of paintings on canvas, generally 16" x 20" up to 36" x 48". Occasionaly when I have a show and an artist shows up with the bulk of their work unframed, they are willing to pay for readymades. Most artists cannot afford to custom frame a large number of pieces at once, and they have shown up with some pretty atrocious readymades. I won't hang anything in the gallery that is poorly framed, because I don't want my clients to think we framed it! The wider mouldings set the artwork off well and if we keep the profiles fairly consistent the show looks a lot more inviting. JFM has great frames,and they offer lots of sizes, but they never seem to have what I need when I need it. I want to have backup. I buy a few from Decor, but they don't have a wide selection of profiles or sizes.