Fillet inside moulding lip?

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Ok, I just finished wrestling with a silver fillet inside a 2" moulding. Cut to fit, then glued in place.

Of course the fillet is "a little bent," so I have to hold it in the middle on the long side. (frame is about 22 x 25) Then the other side falls out. Then I put some foam behind it to hold it till it sets. Then the bent part pops away. Then I tie some string to the bend part to hold it in place. Then the other corner comes out. Well, ... I eventually get it set.

There MUST be an easier way?? How do you get a fillet along the inside of a moulding?
 
Cliff,

I start out ATGing the fillet in place on the moulding. Sometimes if the fillet has a wax coating or the gold leaf spills over to the lip you may have to lightly sand it for the ATG to hold. After all 4 are cut and placed, then I go back and apply a small dab of glue to the corners and spot glue along the lip of the moulding or fillet. Do a final fit/adjustment, turn it upside down and let it set for about an hour to dry.

Hope some of that helps or makes sense,
Roxanne

Langley House Gallery
Spring, TX
 
I hold the philit in place with IDL binder clips and strips of mat board to protect the frame finish.
The binder clips are a great multipurpose tool for the shop and can be found at most office supply stores.
 
Did I ever tell you that I v-nail ALL of my fillays?

Yup, that's what I do.

Got to love those Cassese fillet v-nails. 1/8", 3/16", 1/4", etc.

If that is not an option, you can join them with glue and a miter vise.

I trim them, join them, then spot glue them, holding them in place with Framers Points if necessary.

Just call me Less - Master Fillet Guru :rolleyes:


[ 11-13-2003, 02:07 PM: Message edited by: lessafinger ]
 
I use 2 inch strips of ATG every 6 inches around the lip of the frame, then use white glue in the spaces between the ATG. The ATG will hold the fillets in place while the glue sets. I vary the spacing based on the size of the frame. It helps to drop the glass in while the glue sets to make sure that the flat surface of the fillet is even, then the glue won't be stressed when you assemble the package. Often the inside of the fillet is finished and the glue has less than normal purchase. the leveling step will help.

Pat :D
 
I use the binder clips as well. Bought all 3 sizes at the local Office Depot. Some frame profiles prohibit their use so I will employ my trusty point driver and sink a few points to hold the fillet in place while the glue sets.
 
I work with chop only. I order the frame chopped, measure the opening, and order the fillet chopped to the sight size of the frame. ATG in place, done.
 
Set it on top of the rest of the frame package (backing board, art work, mats, glass, fillet), place the frame over the top, flip it all over and diamond point the work in from the back as usual.
 
If your adding a fillet directly to the rabbit in a wood moulding, just lay a bead of Tacky Glue to the edge of the fillet, then staple it about every foot or so with 1/4" leg staples to the underside of the rabbit in the moulding. Let it dry then cut the frame and the fillet at the same time.

John
 
Sometimes a bit of bundle wrap or shrink wrap might help to hold tricky objects in place while the glue dries.
 
If your adding a fillet directly to the rabbit in a wood moulding, just lay a bead of Tacky Glue to the edge of the fillet, then staple it about every foot or so with 1/4" leg staples to the underside of the rabbit in the moulding. Let it dry then cut the frame and the fillet at the same time.
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One caution with this method: remove the staples after the glue dries, or you'll put an ugly nick in your expensive, hollow-ground chopper blades.

:cool: Rick
 
Sorry Rick, I should have mentioned that I use power saws to cut mouldings. Your right, staples would mess up chopper blades big time. The saw will cut through staples just fine. Also, if your using an electric stapler, do NOT use that to attach your fillet, the staples are way to big and will split the wood.

John
 
John,

Is there any reason that you use Tacky Glue not the "White" PVC glue for attaching fillet?
I would understand that if you would use glue only. But, you say that you use ATG or staples for the initial bond. :confused:

Bork
 
Bork, when you are gluing an eight feet stick of fillet to the rabbit of an eight foot stick of moulding, you will often times find that the fillet, will not lay perfectly in the rabbit on it's own.

I'm not sure, but I think this might be caused by warping in one or both items being glued up.

I have found that if I staple the fillet to the moulding before the glue dries, the joining of the two will be perfect.

As far as the glue goes, I just like Tacky Glue for this type of project. If you get any squeezed out at the front that you somehow miss, you can clean it off with a damp rag after it has dried, since it is water soluble. I have also used woodworkers glue and corner weld for doing this. I do not use ATG.

John

[ 11-16-2003, 04:25 PM: Message edited by: JRB ]
 
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