Epson's new trademark UltraGiclée

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Oh boy! Now I can make UltraGiclée's on my Epson Printer. Does this muddy the waters?

If you use a pro printer from Epson you can claim to be producing UltraGiclée prints.

framer
 
I'd have to limit promotion to radio ads. I could never figure out how to make that little mark over the 'e' in UltraGiclee.

Then some dumass radio announcer would pronounce it with a hard 'G' and a short 'i' and all the mystique would be down the toilet.

Nope, I'm sticking with old-fashioned inkjet prints.

(ieSpell suggested "Tragically" instead of "UltraGiclee.")
 
"What's in a name?
That which we call a rose
By any other word..."

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Now to combine two current threads. By printing "pirated internet pictures" you can sell UltraGiclees to your customers.

Uh-oh Don't think Epson thought out the name too well. Ultra-Giclee shortened would be U-G-lee prints, that's what my currents printer gives me when I'm getting low on ink!
 
The thing that gets me is that they call them "Fine Art Prints" in their ads. That almost sounds like they are talking about fine art prints, but what they mean is "The Prettiest Poster Money Can Buy". They're certainly not multi-color stone lithographs, wood engravings or serigraphs etc.
It's starting to sound like we need a new designation for real fine art prints (but I know it won't be Ultra Glamorous Limited Entry Edition).

B.
 
Ultra-G should be Ultra-C for crap. bad mood and don't like computers things that go with them or infront of them...at the moment
Patrick Leeland
 
What I find even worse is the local artists that use Kinko's color Lazar copies, sign them and pass them off at the local galleries as original signed prints. Please.

framer
 
Withyou on that one FramerTG (are you really the framer to god? COOL! I want that gig!)

Artists pass off these photocopies as limited editions(?) becuase they only get 500 done at a time. Also have a customer who is going to a guy that "makes digtal copies" of her work. OK he has a 3 Meg digital camera, that's not digital photography, that's a hobbyist undercutting the pro's. Now she's gonna get a color printer to do the "digital output".

If she hears of this printer I know she's gona come in asking about prices of Giclees, and if I want to carry them for her.
 
This thread and Brian's comment,"The Prettiest Poster Money Can Buy". lead an inexperienced art salesman like myself to a great deal of confusion. One of these days I am going to attend Willam Parker's or some other instructors class on recognizeing art mediums.

To the best of my understanding a "POSTER" can be any work of art that has printed material on it.I also was of the mistaken impression that the medium ( even electronically produced or mechanically ,a la Lithographs) could still be a fine art print.

It was my uniformed impression that the means of rendering the work isn't what makes it a FINE ART work but what the work is.

I have been involved in countless discussions and Threads both here and with art majors ( my daughter the budding animator among them as well as her instructors at Collage) that said that digitally produced work can be and are just another medium and there are degrees to Giclees just as all other mediums in the artworld. My daughter had a very difficult time understanding this when she was being taught to do animation.( she felt digitally produced art was cheating or in some way inferior until she took the course and struggled perfecting it).

I will agree that Ultra-Giclee just like ultra anything else is probably a marketing gimmick and doesn't mean didly about how fine the work is.What matters is what is on the paper/canvas and how good and lasting the image is.

This is just MHO and untill I attend a seminar or class on Art mediums that includes digitally produced work ,that is all it will be. However I am trying not to base MHO on my personal preferances or Predjudices and would love to hear some TRULY difinitive answer on what is FINE ART and in which mediums it can be produced and why it is so titled.
BUDDY
 
This is fun, and all, but let's understand that these printers are NOT your parents' inkjet.

Most use pigmented inks, not dyes. With the correct papers, the prints are vivid, gorgeous and more stable than conventional lab photos (which is what I think they should be compared with, instead of stone lithos), and certainly more stable than the inkjet prints that most people are cranking out.

If photographers want to sign them and limit the available quantities, I see no harm in it. I don't think we'll see editions of 250,000. (These printers are incredibly slow.)
 
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