digital ink print for framing
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Yea the photo-paper used for ink prints seem to me to be as likely to stick as any other. Matte paper may become stained from condensation but probably won't stick. I've never had off gassing ruin a print but I have had it attach to the inside of the glass even after drying for several days.
Good luck.
Good luck.
Jeff Rodier
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
The description gives us no clue as to what the art is. Is it a photo on photo paper or a print on art paper. Was it printed on a professional printer or at home on a desktop printer. There is a whole lot of information that needs to be shared before anybody can do anything other than guess.
Well this could be informative. Are photo papers (specfically luster or gloss as described) printed in my printer, from a photo lab, or at home be more or less likely to stick than one another? In my experiance those two papers, reguardless where/how they are printed, tend to be incredibly sensitve to water when matte papers aren't. Likelyhood to stick seems to relate more to a paper type than brands or printers. Both matte papers and photo papers both stand to face damage but not specifically sticking IMO.
Jeff Rodier
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Matte art papers professionally printed stand very little chance of sticking as long as the pieces are not stored in the attic, basement or garage. Photo papers such as gloss, matte, satin have a higher likelihood of sticking. Luster is one I have never seen stick but could happen especially if printed with gloss black ink.
Desktop printers stand a higher chance of sticking than professional printers since they use gloss black with a few exceptions. So like I said we are all just guessing since none of us have any idea of what we are working with.
Desktop printers stand a higher chance of sticking than professional printers since they use gloss black with a few exceptions. So like I said we are all just guessing since none of us have any idea of what we are working with.
Who knew the ink color effected the likely hood that photo paper would stick to glass?
The luster rolls stick to my hands when changing them out. They seem quite sensitive to moisture.
I took all my personal photos to my shop when were moving. I figured they would be safer there than in storage. My shop shared an hvac with a warehouse behind me. It was a little humid but I had no idea..... They were stored maybe 4 months and in totes. I now have several thick clumps of photos. I have tried to separate them with mixed results. Almost all of them were printed in a lab. Some are gloss 4x6 snapshots and some are matte papers we got from studios and some I printed.
I think generally speaking "photo papers" are somewhat likely to stick because we see it often. Matte papers are unlikely to (although there are other problems) because we rarely see it. Alot more or alot less info won't change that. I'm skeptical that the color has much effect on that.
The luster rolls stick to my hands when changing them out. They seem quite sensitive to moisture.
I took all my personal photos to my shop when were moving. I figured they would be safer there than in storage. My shop shared an hvac with a warehouse behind me. It was a little humid but I had no idea..... They were stored maybe 4 months and in totes. I now have several thick clumps of photos. I have tried to separate them with mixed results. Almost all of them were printed in a lab. Some are gloss 4x6 snapshots and some are matte papers we got from studios and some I printed.
I think generally speaking "photo papers" are somewhat likely to stick because we see it often. Matte papers are unlikely to (although there are other problems) because we rarely see it. Alot more or alot less info won't change that. I'm skeptical that the color has much effect on that.
Rhonda in MT
MGF, Master Grumble Framer
It's hard to say if it will stick to the glass. I'd just put in spacers and be done with it.
Jeff Rodier
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Sounds like you are using primarily photo papers and emulsion prints. There is also no telling who's version of Luster you are using but I would bet it is not Epson because of price. Gloss black ink has laquers in it to give it the shine so it acts differently than matte black.
Like I said there is not enough information in the original post for anybody to answer the question with anything other than a guess. I have put a very large number of prints directly against glass with Epson Enhanced Matte paper and disassembled them with no sticking. No other ill effects have come from it either. There is no shortage of heat and humidity here in SC.
Epson Premium luster is only photo paper I use. I've used another one who's name escapes me right now. I didn't like the color and my custom profile was for Epsons so I use it. No matter though they both seemed equally sensitive to moisture. I used Ilford Gallery Gold Silk for my work. It's like a shiny rag paper but I don't think consider it a photopaper.
Were they printed when the sky was over cast? What color frame were they in? All these things effect the stick factor of prints and I would need alot more information to give you an answer.
Jeff Rodier
SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God
Jay you have been given very specific information, Epson Enhanced Matte, Epson Matte Black ink as we have discussed that is all I use at least a dozen times and Epson 9800 as we have also discussed at least a dozen times. The Enhanced Matte does not stick and I have mounted and framed hundreds of pieces within an hour of coming out of the printer. I framed about 500 pieces this way for the move into the larger store. For the first year we offered to switch the pieces into other frames if the customer liked them better. After doing that a couple of hundred times we dropped the offer.
Now go back and read the original post. No information about anything whatsoever. Since you are able to discern actual information from that post please fill us in on the type of printer, paper type and ink used.
Now go back and read the original post. No information about anything whatsoever. Since you are able to discern actual information from that post please fill us in on the type of printer, paper type and ink used.
Sorry, maybe I should adopt the green text. I think the colored ink theory is overly creative. If black ink is any more sticky, which I'm skeptical, it's total effect is nothing compared to the paper it's printed on.
The question was general and I offered a general suggestion. These generalities you have somewhat supported with the fact that none of your matte prints have stuck. You can wish for all the information in the world but all the knowledge in the world is unlikely to disprove the general statements. I believe that photo papers are likely to stick. Matte papers are less likely. Both stand to suffer some damage if mashed up against glass. This is generally true regardless of the specific paper type, color of the print, type of glass, color of your car, solar flares, gas prices, the price of tea in Guatemala, or any other fact you seem to think is so important.
If anything I tip my hat more to what Rhonda said and that is "It's hard to say". That is true regardless of the specifics. Generally speaking there are some truths though.
The question was general and I offered a general suggestion. These generalities you have somewhat supported with the fact that none of your matte prints have stuck. You can wish for all the information in the world but all the knowledge in the world is unlikely to disprove the general statements. I believe that photo papers are likely to stick. Matte papers are less likely. Both stand to suffer some damage if mashed up against glass. This is generally true regardless of the specific paper type, color of the print, type of glass, color of your car, solar flares, gas prices, the price of tea in Guatemala, or any other fact you seem to think is so important.
If anything I tip my hat more to what Rhonda said and that is "It's hard to say". That is true regardless of the specifics. Generally speaking there are some truths though.
jim_p
SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer
We have a general rule in our shop that artwork should not touch the glazing, period. Any exceptions to this rule have to be carefully considered on a case-by-case basis. When a client wants to frame a piece without a mat, I use spacers. I've found that artwork pinched around the edges by spacers tends to buckle. Unless the artwork is really stiff, I'll use a reversible archival drymount (Artcare Restore or equivalent) to avoid this buckling.