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How do you all feel about people who remove a post they have made on any paticulare thread? I always feel that I should not delete anything I have writen, it just seems to feel wrong whenever I have done it. All these goings on, that is The Grumble should remain intact, I think. I have made posts that I have regreted, but I have eliminated very few of them. I know it makes me seem like a jerk some of the time ( maybe all ) but I still think it should be left as posted. Corrected, sure, but not deleted.

John
 
John;I am glad that you don't say anything that would be better not said but people like myself often type things that on second apprasial should not be said publicly.Further more I often say things that can't be corrected and need to be completely rewritten.
Two cliches come to mind:"If you can't say anything nice then don't say anything at all."And my default: "It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool,than to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
I have Deleted and Corrected post and will continue to do both when ever my second impressions indicate that I might offend anyone.Don't you agree?I really wish I knew how to remove all indications that I even made any attempt.What I mean is, I wish I could remove even my Sign-On name.Then I wouldn't need to think of a clever substitution for my mistake.
BUDDY
 
Buddy,

To suppliment my framing income, I am offering a new service on The Grumble. For $2, I will completely delete any single post on this forum, Warped or the techi forum. If you're having a really rough day, I will delete 3 posts for $5.

I accept VISA, Mastercard, Discover or American Express.

If you mess up on any of the other forums, you're on your own.

(BTW, the fee is much higher if you want to delete one of Less' posts. Or we can negotiate. Maybe I'd do it for free.)
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John, I agree with you. If I can't take back what I said to Phyllis about Marla in 1968, (Who knew they were friends?) I don't think anyone should be able to delete their Grumble posts. Not without paying the fee.
 
My feeling is that any post should be kept once it is posted, if further explaination or indeed sometimes apologies need to be made then they should be made with a post further down the thread.
Edits for grammer or sentences which later turn out to make no sense whatsoever I think are okay.
For as long as I can remember there has only been one instance where I thought it okay that posts be deleted.
 
I agree with John. If someone posts, especially starting a new topic after the last time I check th Grumble during the day, then three people reply during the evening, and then the topic starter removes the original post it's very confusing when I look at the Grumble the next morning and only see the replies.

Once someone has replied to it I think removing a post disrupts the thread. However, if I post something and think better of it within seconds, I have no qualms about eliminating it by edititing it before anyone has replied.

I have added lines to posts, or separate posts that explain my first post if I think there is room for misinterpretation.
 
John,
I agree with you in principle, but what can you do about it? There are going to be some posts deleted for any number of reasons and, with the exception of a topic starter, most won't be missed.
It seems to me that the only posts that get deleted are those that really don't have any appeal above base curiosity to begin with, and certainly don't provide anything towards the greater good of the G.
True, it would be better if the post was thought out more thoroughly before hitting the button, but some folk shoot from the hip, some don't.
If everyone mulled over their posts the G would indeed get pretty boring. Deleting a post allows those with a quick draw to extracate their foot from their mouth with a minimal amount of embarassment. It's a learning process.
Whoever authored the deleted post is still identified, and I suppose that if you really wanted to know what it was they deleted, you could email them and ask.
 
Originally posted by wpfay:
John,
It seems to me that the only posts that get deleted are those that really don't have any appeal above base curiosity to begin with, and certainly don't provide anything towards the greater good of the G.
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Wally if that were true you guys wouldn't even have a clue I had ever made a post.
 
Kathy, you do notice I made no mention of the quality or importance of non-deleted posts. Nor will I now.
 
I will delete on Warped cheaper than Ron.

Just thought you'd like to know....

Seriously, though, I don't delete anymore. Tried it, nobody cared, some got mad, so I gave it up for Lent. And I'm a Baptist!
 
You can always find someone who will delete a little cheaper, but what do you really know about them? What if they delete your post and then - after your check has cleared or your credit card has been charged - the post reappears? Or shows up on another thread? Or in a mass email? Do you think you can complain to the Clayton, NC Better Business Bureau?

To respond publicly to a semi-serious private email I just received about deleting posts: You can edit your post down to nothing. If you started the thread, you can edit the title of the topic. But the empty post will still be there with your name on it.

Only a moderator or the administrator can completely delete all traces of a post or an entire thread. That could happen if
1)the original poster requests it
2)the post is in very bad taste or is intentionally hurtful
3)the moderator is having a very bad day 'cause a rack full of moulding collapsed creating a huge inventory of seldom-utilized distressed furniture-finish moulding.

I would agree that it is inappropriate to delete a post if others have already responded to it. That might make the responders look stupid, instead of the original poster. Bad etiquette and even worse Karma.
 
I thinl Lance E has the right idea, clarify your thinking with a new post or apologise if needed, further down the thread.

I just think The Grumble would be a more interesting place if we tried not to delete.

John
 
Now, Purp...what'd I ever do to you? And, the first rule of Grumble-dom is to NEVER agree with Ron. Remember, he keeps a copy of Victoria's Secret catalog for HIMSELF!!!
 
I know I'm slower then most but did anyone else notice the number of replies to this thread?
BUDDY
 
The current cloning debacle on warped is a perfect example! I was hesitant about throwing my second footnote sort of question on at the end. I did it anyway. I should have gone with my instinct to go back and delete that line before anyone saw it. As it is the whole thing is a big sloppy mess and not one person has posted whether they rely on Dan Rather, or a local newspaper.

Oy!
 
OK I know there is 22-23 replies listed now,but when I asked the number of replies was 0-Nada-zippo.I can't prove it now but I checked and rechecked the number of replies and it stayed 0 all the time.Must be my new Xmas gift(Laptop) or maybe My medications are causeing me to Halucinate.No one else saw it.It must be me.
BUDDY
 
I have been telling myself for 2 days that I was not going to post on this thread, as I figured that I was the root cause of it in the first place. That being said, I wish to clarify something. To quote myself, "first, last, and only time I'll say this", and will probably deny it if you ask. Anyway...

I have made no secret on here of my age or of some of the difficulties that have happened in my life. Through this life, I have learned one very important lesson. Words can be some of your very best tools, some of your very best weapons, some of your most excellent clubs. You must be very careful as to how you use your words. Words can lift us up. They can shoot us down. Words can destroy nations, or hearts. They can do the most harm.
I posted something a week or so ago, that apparently caused some of this hurt, purely unintentional, I assure you. Something that I thought was funny, cute. That this caused someone else distress, and my, perhaps, somewhat insensative answers, were unforgivable. I won't do that again.
However, and this is the big however, I am responsible for my words , only my words. I removed those words, as it seemed to me, that the longer that they stayed, the more damage and hurt was done. Had this not been the case, I would not have removed them. I did not remove the thread, as I was not responsible for all of the words on that thread, only my own. I could, therefore, only remove my own. I will not take responsibility for someone else's words. That is between them and their conscience.

How do I feel about someone deleting posts? I'm not excited about it, but, if what I've posted, or you've posted, or anyone's posted is causing distress to one of the other of us, I would hope that you would have the courage to delete it, and take the heat, in hopes of reducing any further hurt.
That's my opinion. I don't expect you all to agree. That's what makes this world interesting, and fun.
 
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My post above was a miserable attempt at being funny. ( can you say “crash and burn”?)

Roz never actually posted to this thread. THAT was part of what I considered to be funny. ( . . . earth to ERIC, come in ERIC . . . )

I have apologized to Roz for commandeering her good name and reputation. (Guess I could have clued her in first? I’ll make note to self for next time)

I regret having suggested that Roz was capable of being harsh. (I thought that comment was so absurd, that it would be obvious to everyone that it was done ‘tongue-in-cheek’. Oh well.)

Okay, you all can carry on with what you were doing. Um . . . well, not completely.

P.S. as per the debate above I have not edited down nor deleted my post – That would leave poor Charles asking me "Eric, Which post by Roz?" about a post that no longer exists, about another post that never did exist. Do you see where this is going? :confused:
 
Meghan, I don't get a newspaper or listen to Dan Rather. I listen to a local radio station and hear what is said at work.

Should I copy and paste this to your thread and then delete it from this one?
 
Susan, you did the right thing, if you thought you offended 'someone'. While I agree that posts shouldn't be deleted, (I used to be a great deleter of posts on Warped. Whole threads, even) I would like to be able to delete posters, in some cases.
You are right. Words can be a serious weapon, but it is a coward and a craven who uses words, particularly someone elses, as a weapon. Particularly when they use hurtful, hateful words, and use someone else's misfortune, twisting it. I am sure that, now, someone will say I am a coward and a craven for the statement I just made. Bring it on!
 
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