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I have a customer who brought two paintings to me to frame for her. She decided on a moulding which looks great.

The problem is one is 2 1/2" deep, other is 1" which I can deal with. I think artist stretched both before she painted them. What to do? Do I need to double frame? First with deep moulding then the one she chose. I know that paintings should be held to moulding with s-clips. Do I nail the two mouldings together? Limited to what I have available in moulding lines at present time: Decor, Syr sales, United

I am fairly new to framing and would hate to have to pass on job if it is more than I can chew. Last group of family pics I did for her paid my rent for last month.

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Kate
 
Keo thats an easy task, of course I'd use a econo strip or something like that on the rabit. Then set the painting in and use off sets, they come in different hieghts to accomodate the picture. sometime you'll need to gently bend the offsets to fit tighter. Hope this will help David D&R Treasure Framing www.aframedpoem.com
 
I think you missunderstood my question. I know I have to use clips to attach to frame. I'm asking about the frame ( or frames) I need to use to accomodate a very deep painting.

Can someone help. I really want to keep job.

kate
 
Kate I'm sorry about that the do offer very pretty ornaite shadowbox moulding about 1 1/2 thick and 3 1/2 deep in gold, silver and mixed, sorry I can't quote the brands , but they are very nice my supplier says they charge about 14.00 ft for chop. if its to deep ya can rip it on the old table saw. thats all I can think of. go to your suppliers showroom and take look.
 
Hi Keo,

I think you need to explain yourself a little better, although it does not take much to confuse me.

Is this the first time you are framing paintings on canvas?
How deep are the paintings?
How wide are the frames?
I am going to assume the she picked two different frames, one for each painting. Why would you want to put the frames together?
I think you should probably not worry about seeing the side of a canvas a little.

You say one moulding is 2 1/2" deep and the other is 1" deep, but you can deal with that. You can deal with what?

FYI - almost all artists paint on canvases that are already stretched.
It is not unusual for stretched oil paintings to stick out of the back of the frame, and there are many ways to secure a painting.

If you are new to framing, you should buy a bunch of books on framing that are recommended reading by the PPFA (Professional Picture Framers Association). These books are very helpful when you are just starting out, and will also help you pass the CPF (Certified Picture Framer) exam, should you choose to. Additionally, if you intend to take framing seriously, you should take some classes, or even apprentice with a professional framer.
 
I'm sorry if I did not explain well enough.

Both paintings are similar in appearance, so customer wants them in same room i beleive. They are both about 4 ft x 3 ft. One was streached on 1" deep and other is 2 1/2" deep. We found a moulding profile customer likes, that is about 2 1/2" wide, gold ornate, but only a "normal" rabbit - about 3/4". It will work for one painting but leaves way to much showing on other painting. That is my problem. My catalogs do not show ornate, deep mouldings so was looking for help.

Do I use the one she choose and use a simple deep moulding as a liner to cover sides? Or do they really make one that deep(2 1/2")?

I bought a small frame shop and was suppose to work w/ owner for 2 months in Nov & Dec but she never came back (only stwice after hours& I was not there). At least I only paid for materials and equipment-she really wanted out can't you tell. I'm still trying to decifer her orders and get goods to customers. Most had left jobs with her and said "no rush"....she took them at their word. I will be attending class at United school in March. Has been hard to work w/ husband schedule and two kids, 3 & 4 yrs.

There are 3 other frame shops in towm next door I could send her to but really like to do this myself.
 
Given the width of the molding that the client
has chosen, the simplest solution involves
backing out the frames with wood. The wood
can be mitered and screwed to the back of the
frames to extend the depth of the rabbet. The
sides of the backing wood should be painted a
traditional color, which can usually be made
by mixing a tiny bit of black with raw umber or
raw sienna. Matte acrylic paints should do a good
job.

Hugh
 
Hugh that is the best advice , I do believe. Keo can even go to the ole lumber store like Homedepot , and get the 1x2 Quick and easy. then if needed you could use offsets. there now you can do the job in confidence.... Good luck!!!
 
Me, personally, I think I would just put the painting in the frame and not worry about it. No doubt, you did not add the cost of the extra labor or materials in. I am also sure that with a 2 1/2" wide moulding, once it is on the wall, you won't see the sides of the canvas. A quick and easy way to neaten it up if you wish is to paper back around the canvas to the frame and carefully fold the paper at the corners. 2 1/2" minus 3/4" equals 1 3/4". I really don't think with a 2 1/2" wide moulding, that it is enough to be concerned.

Put it together and hang it on a wall, you'll see. No problem, unless the customers is anal.

Good luck with your new shop, and what a jerk the x owner is.
 
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