Decor Late Again

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I just got my Decor for the month of September. There is this nifty wrapper on the outside advertising a promotion and the possibility of winning $500.00 at the Tru Vue booth in Atlanta.
That was probably a spendy little advertisement to arrive a week after the show starts.
I know that this is not the way that the folks at Decor would prefer to have it, but it seems to have become pretty much the norm. All the other periodicals I subscribe to arrive before the first of the month so any time-sensitive advertisement is not for nothing.
It seems to have comment to the issue of raising the business consciousness of the industry when the trade publications are not delivered in a timely fashion.
UH-OH! I just opened the magazine and found the 30 page exhibitor guide and the 24 page Atlanta Decor Expo Show Guide. 54 pages of 4-color offset landfill.
Am I alone on this, is it just a glitch with the local USPS?
With the relatively light turn out at the show and the conspicuous absence of some of the vendors what are the effects on the long term viability of the show when the host's publication arrives tardy?
 
It seems that when I decide to post something that is in some way controversial, I disappear. Well, it's Friday at 5:13 and I usually don't Grumble in the evening. I will be back in the morning to answer any comments. I mean this post to be constructively critical, not mean-spirited.
 
I agree with you Wally. I just got my Decor today also. I thought the same things you did.
Also, it seems to me that the magazine is getting less and less interesting and thinner and thinner except for ads?
 
Wally,

You should feel good that you got your copy this soon. I still haven't received my September issue.

Maybe they should have put the Vegas goodies in the Sept. issue and moved Atlanta back to April! ;)

Framerguy
 
I just received the August 25th 2003 Sources 2004 issue and the September 2003 issue at the same time. Wally, you are right, it loses something receiving the issue after the Atlanta show has come and gone. I did not attend the show, so no skin off my nose, but for those who did attend...

-Mike.
 
Just curious.............why on earth would they have put it in this months issue anyway? Why not August? I just got PFM this week and it included a packet on all the exhibitors for Las Vegas in January.
 
I received mine yesterday and was a little disappointed in the timing. There were several things in the magazine that I would have been interested in looking for, but...I did notice that there were copies of the Sept. issue at the show, but I didn't pick one up because my brief was pretty full--otherwise I would have read it in the room on Friday night. Sure wish I had grabbed one now.
 
And I thought mine arrived late because of being on the West Coast :(
I inquired a year ago and was told that they started mailing on the first of the month. I think they don't realize the impact of receiving month old material. Those who advertise in it must realize that they don't get the best affect when it's not timely. :confused: :confused:
 
wpfay:
No just got mine yesterday. If it wasn't free, I'd cancel the subscription.

Lousy timing, and hope the advertisers aren't too POed
 
I got my copy today, it's early. Usually all my magazines arrive a couple of weeks after someone has posted comments here regarding an article.

I will say that I have noticed other non trade publications that also come out in a not so timely fashion. As an advertiser I would not be happy.
 
I received mine Thursday. Read it in 10 minutes or so.
 
I got my issue on Wednesday, 2 days after coming home from Atlanta...bad timing.

If I were an advertiser in this issue I'd be very pissed off. This is not an inexpensive publication to advertise in.

By the way i really enjoyed meeting y'all. Dinner was great and I think I owe someone 6 bucks for a beer at the Omni Bar!?

Joel
 
I just got mine on Friday. I bet they all came out late. I know the reason why is they were trying to get the Decor Sources out which pushed the regular September magazine back but they really should have thought twice about that. If I was an advertiser I would be looking for some free ads now. This one's going to cost them. Too bad.

[ 09-13-2003, 04:18 PM: Message edited by: Frank Larson ]
 
At least y'all are getting them: they dropped me about four months ago and can't figure out why.

I'm with you: if it wasn't free, I'd drop them instead of vice-versa. (Oh, probably not...but it makes me feel better to say it.) And I did pay for all those years so this next free year will be nice.
 
Amazingly, I had a copy at my room at Embassy Suites last Thurs night when we checked in. Our stores received them this Thursday.

Go figure-but I did use the handy map and booth layout. It was helpful.
 
Have I missed something here?? Not only have I not gotten my copy of DECOR yet but I paid for the copy I didn't get!!

How are y'all getting free copies of DECOR? I have been buying mine for the past 14 years and haven't had any "free" offers from any of the DECOR staff.

Did I miss something in transit when I moved? Is John Taff THAT upset with me? I did get one copy since I moved down here but I had to call and request it.

(sniff) :confused:

Framerguy
 
I have two subscriptions.

One of them I paid for. One of them was free and started arriving about a year after I renewed my paid subscription.

Then, a few months ago, I received an offer for another FREE subscription if I filled out a survey.

I considered it, so I could have one at home, one at the shop and one in my van when I'm caught in traffic. :rolleyes:
 
I've been getting Decor for over 26 years now, and it has ALWAYS arrived about 1/3 of the way into the month named on the cover. Never could figure that one out. It does become annoying when there is time-sensitive info like show details involved.
My problem is that I never get Framing Business News magazine. I have called them twice about it. The first time they acted like my local post office must be stealing them (yeah, right). Last time we set up a new subscription account. Here it is half way thru the month and no FBN.

BTW, did anyone else recieve a copy of a magazine called Art and Frame Review? I got one out of the clear blue last month. It is published out of Acworth, GA. It is rather thin, and has a graphic feel similar to a few short-lived trade publications from the late 70's- early 80's. Further adding to the "retro" feel was the article about creating a shadowbox for a rhinestone jewelry collection. The project itself was pretty nice, but its design was dominated by a background of burgundy marble matboard, which is very dated-looking compared to some of the more recently-introduced textures from Bainbridge and Crescent.The really unfortunate thing is that there was an article featuring a number of truly creepy and biliously-colored paintings by none other than Marilyn Manson. (Yes, THAT Marilyn Manson.)
I guess this mag must have been around for a while, since it is labeled vol VII, No.8, but I've never seen it before.

:cool: Rick
 
Originally posted by Framerguy:
Have I missed something here?? Not only have I not gotten my copy of DECOR yet but I paid for the copy I didn't get!!

At the show there was a booth set up at the front doors, where the buses dropped people off, where you could sign up for your free year. Some how I manage to keep finding free subs. We used to get them free with membership to PPFA. They stopped that about 2 years ago I belive.

If I can find one of the forms, I'll fax or e-mail it to you. I had several extras in all this "stuff" I think.

Come to think of it, the form was in the envelope that our tickets came in. I'll look there Monday.
 
Originally posted by Rick Granick:


BTW, did anyone else recieve a copy of a magazine called Art and Frame Review?
Rick it used to be called Southeastern Framer. I've been getting it for a while now. If anyone is interested in a free sample go to
http://www.go-star.com/framer/

Interestingly, in the next issue is to be an article on a frame shop called "ArtFrame" located in Pickerington, Ohio. Sound familiar to anyone?

Betty
 
Betty,

Hmmmm, yeah, that sounds like my "shadowbox" teacher! Good going, Jim!

Jerry,

I'd appreciate that. And, just because I am such a good guy, I will reward you with a special "treat". Keep your eyes on the Photos from Atlanta thread. I will also take care of Dns's desires too with that same post.

Framerguy
 
Originally posted by Rick Granick:
My problem is that I never get Framing Business News magazine. I have called them twice about it.
Do you get <u>Art Business News</u>? If so, they probably come in the same package, and FBN is a pretty thin mag, so you may have thought it was filler...
 
Well,that will teach me to take vacation after Atlanta. Let me respond to some of this.

Did September come out late? Nope. September actually mailed early--Aug. 29. For 20 years or more, DECOR has mailed on the first business day of the month of publication. So, yes, some people--mainly in the middle of the country--get it in five to ten days. Others--mostly on the two coasts--receive it later...in some cases, a week or so later. It's been a perrenial problem for us, but we're working on pushing the distribuition date farther back into the month prior so that people get it earlier. Personally, I recieved my issue of DECOR at home several days before either ABN or PFM, and my issue mails from Michigan to my house in Missouri on the same day every other issue is mailed on.

Wally, as far as 54 color pages of landfill, I will respectfully disagree with you entirely. The show special section and the show directory are of use to a lot of people who don't come to the show. And the issue was distributed at the show to make sure both publications made it into everyone's hands.

Further, the turnout at the show was good, and there were no significant absences. Yes, some companies aren't doing well right now, but the show is still the largest, best attended show in the world in this industry. And, yes, it takes its lumps with the economy just as every other business does.

Bill, yes, the magazine is getting thinner, again because of cutbacks in advertising. But I can assure you that DECOR is the absolute leader in ad pages for the art & framing industry, commanding much more business than any of our competitors--often times even added all together. As to your view that the magazine is getting less and less interesting,well...you are certainly entitled to your opinion, but I will put DECOR up against ANY of its competitors any day. Period.


Mike, September wasn't the only issue to feature complete information on the Atlanta Show. We began publicizing the dates for this year's Atlanta show in SOURCES last year, and then pretty much in every issue since then. Our July issue featured a special section on the show, which was reprinted as a pullout section in August. So, anyone who actually read those issues had more than enough time and information far, far in advance to come. If they waited to receive the September issue to make a decision, they probably weren't all that interested in coming anyway.

Now, the issue with the bellyband from Tru Vue. This was primarily done for people already at the show, since the issue was distributed onsite. Tru-Vue also had bellybands on previous issues to talk about the Top 100 award and other activities they were planning. It was not a device that was specifically or even generally for all readers.

As far as being free, DECOR is not...yet. DECOR's paid subscriptions are being phased out as of three weeks ago to controlled subscriptions (read: free). We made a major push for this at the show, but before there were no free subscriptions. There were some six-month trials that we started two years ago, but no free subscriptions.

What bothers me more about this than anything else is that, reading through a lot of these posts, there seems to be some pent up hostility towards DECOR that I can't quite understand. We have a great team of people here who pride themselves on putting out great products, from the magazine to our shows. We've done all kinds of new things for the industry--with new products oriented toward the consumer, new research studies, better venues for our shows. So what gives? Why the bad feelings? What aren't we doing right that we need to?

One last word. I know that this is a microcosm of the industry, and probably not truly representative of the entire market. So, I do try to take what I read here with a large grain of salt.

But think of this...who's the only publisher that posts anything, answers any questions, responds to any complaints on this board. None of the other publishers or really even editors post here, respond or, for all I know, even read what you guys have to say. And I've done it now for several years, and I haven't shied away from any question or comment posted here. We are listening at DECOR, we have your best interests at heart, and we do care immensely about our products. We appreciate you reading DECOR--even if, Pamela, it's only 10 minutes. 'Nuff said.

John
 
John Taff
Have never seen Decor Magazine over here.
Can i be really cheeky and ask for a freebie to look at, just so that i know what the grumblers are on about.
 
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