maryframer
CGF, Certified Grumble Framer
The morals post got me interested in hearing other framer's thoughts on this......
I had a customer that hits all the points we were talking about in the other post.
He is a collector of Nazi and other military memorabilia
He co-owns a gentleman’s club (two doors away from my shop)
He collects emerging artists work form the local area.
He has framed an art photo of a nude woman in shadows, outsider art, paintings on panels, musical abstract air brush painting on canvases well as photos of scantily clad women, group party photos, and photos of his Hummers.
He was working with a prominent city framer but started using us since we are so close by.
Recently he and his establishment have been in the news regarding possible criminal behavior. I actually think he is doing 30 days in jail for something illicit as I type.
I framed items for him before knowing about any criminal behavior.
Some of my customers I consider friends but not this individual. I do not care to converse with this person for more time than necessary and all interactions are brief.
None of us know what our customers do behind closed doors. This person is somewhat on display to people he encounters, however, just by the nature of his business (and the recent news).
Framing people’s art does illuminate a lot about them though.
What I said earlier regarding art people put on there walls still applies, I leave judgment to God.
Instead of just art, this person himself is questionable.
When I tell people where my shop is, some say "oh you are next to the club", if they keep talking about it I say the same to them - I leave judgment to the guy upstairs.
I have framed art for him in the past that did not cross the line. I may frame for him again in the future. If he asked me to frame something I thought did cross the line I have no problem saying no.
I have a friend that creates marketing maps and other booklet ads for the local area. He got her number from one of her ads and asked her to work with him. She refused. She did not want to help him promote his biz.
Her business is promotion, mine is presentation.
Framing art does not send a message of approval by the framer - it just presents it. (again, not illegal items)
Displaying art (or the object being framed) is the message sent out by the owner of the art.
That is one way to look at it.
If I were in a different profession would I still perform duties for this client? I don't know. I know if I were in the promotion biz, like my friend, I would not work with him either.
I hope I don't come off as jaded, but this is a business arrangement. Our interactions are always professional. If that changed, I would make this person an ex-customer for sure.
Enough from me.…
Happy framing! and Happy 4th!
Love people and use things. When you do the reverse, that is the biggest sin.
I had a customer that hits all the points we were talking about in the other post.
He is a collector of Nazi and other military memorabilia
He co-owns a gentleman’s club (two doors away from my shop)
He collects emerging artists work form the local area.
He has framed an art photo of a nude woman in shadows, outsider art, paintings on panels, musical abstract air brush painting on canvases well as photos of scantily clad women, group party photos, and photos of his Hummers.
He was working with a prominent city framer but started using us since we are so close by.
Recently he and his establishment have been in the news regarding possible criminal behavior. I actually think he is doing 30 days in jail for something illicit as I type.
I framed items for him before knowing about any criminal behavior.
Some of my customers I consider friends but not this individual. I do not care to converse with this person for more time than necessary and all interactions are brief.
None of us know what our customers do behind closed doors. This person is somewhat on display to people he encounters, however, just by the nature of his business (and the recent news).
Framing people’s art does illuminate a lot about them though.
What I said earlier regarding art people put on there walls still applies, I leave judgment to God.
Instead of just art, this person himself is questionable.
When I tell people where my shop is, some say "oh you are next to the club", if they keep talking about it I say the same to them - I leave judgment to the guy upstairs.
I have framed art for him in the past that did not cross the line. I may frame for him again in the future. If he asked me to frame something I thought did cross the line I have no problem saying no.
I have a friend that creates marketing maps and other booklet ads for the local area. He got her number from one of her ads and asked her to work with him. She refused. She did not want to help him promote his biz.
Her business is promotion, mine is presentation.
Framing art does not send a message of approval by the framer - it just presents it. (again, not illegal items)
Displaying art (or the object being framed) is the message sent out by the owner of the art.
That is one way to look at it.
If I were in a different profession would I still perform duties for this client? I don't know. I know if I were in the promotion biz, like my friend, I would not work with him either.
I hope I don't come off as jaded, but this is a business arrangement. Our interactions are always professional. If that changed, I would make this person an ex-customer for sure.
Enough from me.…
Happy framing! and Happy 4th!
Love people and use things. When you do the reverse, that is the biggest sin.
L.