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Rozmataz

Rozmataz

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There are certain things in the process of framing that I have no problem with - just forge ahead - fully confident of the outcome.

Then, there are certain procedures I am tepid on and get really gunshy with - almost to a point where I don't want to do them. But since I am the only one here - I am required to do them!!! Thank God for the Grumble and the moral support, expertise, and knowledge that you all share that make times like this so much easier.

What I am working on - and I have done it before - but on smaller pieces - where I am totally confident (easier to handle, maybe!?!) but I am installing a glass spacer on a fairly large piece that just happens to be going into a metal (eee!) frame. I am a nervous wreck doing it.

I welcome any suggestions to make it easier.

Thanks,

Roz
 
when you say "glass spacers" are you using Econo-space or FrameSpace?? I use Econo-space almost exclusively because of its ease of installation and handling. I have had not so good luck with FrameSpace particularly on larger items as it is difficult for me to keep the spacer and the glass and the artwork all together while I manipulate the frame to fit on everything.

With Econo-space used on large pieces, I install the spacer as usual by attaching each strip to the back side of the glass. Then I place the mats and/or artwork on the spacer. With metal frames I slide the package over to the edge of the workbench and let it hang over a couple of inches. I slide the metal frame onto the art package and work it along the length of the package until it is in place. That way you cause minimal movement in the stack of glass/spacer/artwork which throws everything out of alignment sometimes and you have to start over. And it is much easier to join the last leg of the frame as everything is already upside down.

Good luck. I am sure there will be other good ideas from other Grumblers that may be easier than this one. But it works well for me.

Framerguy
 
I'd be VERY careful using Econospace on a large piece. The adhesive on larger pieces may not hold over a long period of time. Just use the regular Framespace spacers, cut your glass about 1/8" smaller than usual, wear gloves to do it so you don't get fingerprints on the glass and off you go.
 
Framerguy and Mike,

Thanks!! I got it done without incident, but now I need your "avatar" Mike!!!

Phew... and yes, econo space!!! I did tape the edges of the package - so it was MUCH easier to handle and did the "off the edge" (where I was at the time!!) method as well...

Roz (ready for that avatar....!!)
 
Glad it's sorted Roz,

There are some metal 'box' profiles that have a separate channel for the glass - just don't remember if they are Nielsen or a UK supplier.

Glass rattles a bit but you can sort that if you want.
 
I don't know. Maybe rattel'y glass would be kinda neat.
Just kidding John... I get that style from Nielsen.
 
Framerguy said:
when you say "glass spacers" are you using Econo-space or FrameSpace?? I use Econo-space almost exclusively because of its ease of installation and handling. I have had not so good luck with FrameSpace particularly on larger items as it is difficult for me to keep the spacer and the glass and the artwork all together while I manipulate the frame to fit on everything.Framerguy
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Tom, Are you using 2mm glass or 2.5mm? I find the Framespace MUCH easier to use than the adhesive variety! I use the TV glass and the variety of Framespace made for that thickness. When you put it on it Stays on. And, it doesn't slip later when the adhesive gives out. I'm really perplexed that you find it harder? :shrug:

I have taken two yardsticks and put bumpons on each side which hold the glass up for ease of installation. No fingerprints, no moving, and it stays on afterwards!
 
Cliff Wilson said:
I have taken two yardsticks and put bumpons on each side which hold the glass up for ease of installation. No fingerprints, no moving, and it stays on afterwards!
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What a great idea, Cliff. :thumbsup:
 
Roz, perhaps you just need to take a moment to calm down. A nice glass of wine might help. Then, procede with the knowledge that you are well educated, and know how to do this job.

Personally, I was a little overwhelmed everytime I framed something longer than my arms. So I would take a calming moment, and sometimes a chocolate break, then I would get to work.
 
I had been using Econospace until I ran into Greg Fremstad at the Decor Expo in 2002.

Greg showed me how to swipe the edges of the glass with a wetstone to "debur" it. That greatly simplifies the installation of the Framespace.

It takes a couple of seconds and I routinely swipe the glass edges even when I'm not using spacers at all.
 
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