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Hello Joe!

I don't know, but I am very interested in the subject.

What kind of files does the Wizard need?

Maybe you can convert a graphic file?

I heard once that some machines can use clip art files.
 
The Wizard takes clip art files but they are preloaded and wizard has told me that they cannnot do logos because of propiritory reasons. I am muddling around with their cadd program but I am not confident that their machine can cut what I need. I.e small radius turns in letters. That is why I thought there might be a diploma framing wherehouse that could cookie cut one out for me.
 
Here in the great state of Tennessee, where the "people" supposedly pay for the state university, this same august body will sue anyone, and they do it constantly, who use their logos for anything without their consent. This incudes us on a matcutter, artists who show players or such or even THINK of using the UT logo without paying licensing fees.

It's what happens when you put commercialism above education I guess.
 
Call Collegiate Art (Licensing), and ask them about an ok to use a single use logo. You just need to have permission and keep it with the Art. They are very serious about illegal use.
 
Wizard can create custom mats for $50 a design. Contact Wizard's Help Desk for more information.

You can also create mats on your own using Cadd. Sometimes if the design is simple enough, you can cut it out, design the outside dimension of your mat in Cadd (so you have the right size), and tape the design to your monitor. Use straight lines and 3pt Arcs to draw around the design taped to the monitor. Then clean up the design when you have finished.
 
You wouldn't think that anyone could register a 'G' as a trademark. But I've heard that if you use a 'G' that looks anything like a Green Bay Packer 'G' (which isn't much of a logo if you ask me) and you fail to get permission, they send Gilbert Brown to sit on you.
 
I don't remember the name of the company, but there is one out there that has licensed the collegiate logos of almost every significant university in the country and can furnish properly "cut" mats using licensed colors for you (to you?). There is a significant amount of detail and if I am not mistaken, they use a router of sorts, rather than razorblade, to do the actual cutting of the logo.

This doesnt help much with the question regarding cutting the logos with a Wizard, but maybe someone can help refresh my memory. I've seen them at a trade show in the past.
 
Well this has me thinking that I will call my client and tell her it is a no can do. But if someone can remember that company's name I might be able to prevail yet. Thank you all.
 
I don't know how legal this is but, if you design it yourself on a cad program then, whoever it is that is going to hunt you down and sue you for using the letter of the alphabet that, they think they own, then more power to them. They evidently have more money to burn than any of our government entities.

This subject burns my butt, just like the people that think they can name a star for you. Who do they think they are? They don't own the stars, I don't care who they think they are!!!!!

Just another way to make a buck!!
 
The main point that has been expressed here is that doing this is illegal unless you have permission from the college. Since this is a college logo you also have to have permission from the NCAA. If you do not have permission to use the logo then you are violating copyright and trademark laws not to mention you are being unethical.

Think of it this way, you can't get a dealership for a particular well known artist such as G Harvey, Redlin, Barnes, Charles Peterson, Bev Doolittle, ect. You decide that you can create your own because you are a great artist or you can create duplicates on a computer. Are you in violation of the law, in particular copyright and trademarks?

There is no difference here, logos are the same as the artwork that we sell in our stores. Why violate the law and risk your own business.
 
How about the thought that a lot of college 'symbols', NOT their logo's, are public domain?
There are probably a million pictures of the 'Old Well' at UNC, or the 'Belltower' at NCSU.
I'm obviously not an attorney, but if I were to frame a diploma for someone from UNC, and they wanted a picture, pen-and-ink or whatever medium of the 'Old Well', which is as much a symbol, or more, of the university than the 'official' letterhead-type logo, I would happily add it. And, like Mark, bring on the lawyers!
 
In my past life I had to do some large graphics for the University of Minnesota and it had to have all the Big 10 University's on it. The folks at the U gave me a contact name at the Big 10 offices along with a letter stating why I needed the graphics. They sent a real nice packet of photo quality art and a permission to use letter back. Great folks!

But....you will still need permission if you are going to use their actual logo!

I like the varient idea of a symbol or just the letters using the Wizard letters or maybe a varient of the paw.

I too have seen the company discussed above with the collegiate logos in mat board. I think they were in Atlanta about 4 years ago. I also believe they used a MatWriter from Eclipse so if you give Mike a call at Eclipse he may be able to turn you on to these people. 1-800-972-8913.

All of the above CAD statements are true. I'm not sure about the Vector conversion program, I still haven't seen one that realy works.

Otherwise take Dani's advice and hire her to do your logo! She's great!

[ 02-21-2003, 10:45 AM: Message edited by: John Richards ]
 
Here is contact information for the company John is referring to:

David Khosravi
Professional Framing Co.
Atlanta, GA
800-633-0579

I know he has cut many collegiate logos in the past and at one time had all the necessary NCAA licensing and approvals.

Give him a try. Best of luck!
 
Well here is the update on what I have actaully done to remedy the situation that you all have brought to light. The liscensing I took care of by calling the college bookstore and talking to the people who buy the notebooks with said logo applied. I found on this thread a chain of people who transfered me to the next level it was almost comical, when I reach the ultimate permiter I was instructed by an assitant to email the person with attached copy of the art. I recieved in return the blessing of one time permission and congrats to the grad. Feeling now licensed to proceed I called Dani and she is now on the case. I think I could have pulled it off if it did not escape my notice that the WIzard likes to trace only staight lines and three point arcs. This has all been very enlightening and comes directly from a customers saying if you can't do it can you tell me who can. Boy does that ever wreck a nights sleep for me. When the mat is cut I'll let you know how it looks because there is still the question of whether the logo is within the tolerances of the Wizard mat cutter(ie small radius curves).
 
Joe,
Don't worry Dani can do it. Post a photo when it's done could ya?
 
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