China Trade Frames?

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A client just asked for these, saying "Anyone who knows art would know them." I am by no means an expert, but I do know a thing or two, alas I'm not sure what he's after.

He continued to explain that they are on 19th century Chinese Trade Paintings. I know what a trade paperback is, but not a trade painting.

Any information would be appreciated
 
I'm bringing this to the top in case the Grumbler who knows what these are was on vacation in November. A second client is looking for this style. Again, any leads would be appreciated.


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Meghan C. McCord, CPF
J. Pocker & Son
Rye, NY
mcm87@att.net
 
Out of curiousity, I did a search on the 'net' and found two descriptions, but no pictures.
1st one:
c.1800,the hinged D-shaped top with satinwood half-circle and radiating inlays, bell-flower inlay to all 4 tapering legs, as found condition, 29.5"h; 36"w; closed 18"d; top 36"diam.
2nd description:
LARGE CARVED CHINA TRADE FRAME rectangular with ornately carved figures,
dragons and foliage, 33"h; 41"w; opening measures 18" x 30.5", $400.00. ... www.crnauctions.com/prices/lp111100.htm

Both were auctions sites.

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Maryann

[This message has been edited by mbshir (edited January 09, 2002).]
 
On Antiques Roadshow they often talk about something being made for "the China Trade" which means it was made as an exchange item for trading in China to appeal to that market. Someone dealing with modern art and framing would not neccessarily know about these things, but I bet an antique dealer or someone specializing in old paintings and frames would.

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Anne LeBouton
 
Sorry

[This message has been edited by Dermot (edited January 09, 2002).]
 
Additional research unearthed the name "Chinese Chippendale" and a book (which I put on reserve at my local library, called "The China Trade, by Carl Crossman.

I'll let you know what I find out.

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Meghan C. McCord, CPF
J. Pocker & Son
Rye, NY
mcm87@att.net
 
Dear Framechick, THE man in China Trade Paintings is Martyn Gregory at his gallery
No 34 Bury Street, St. James's, LondonSW1Y 6AU England. TEL: +44(0) 20 7839 3731
FAX +44 (0) 20 7930 0812 Emailmgregory@dircon.co.uk
The Chinese Chippendale reference that you found refers to the great English furniture maker and designer Thomas Chippendale. Apart from the quality of his furniture he is particularly famous(over here at least) for his publication of Furniture designs titled THE GENTLEMAN AND CABINET-MAKER'S DIRECTOR IN 1762 . In the mid 1970's I was fortunate to work on the mounting and framing of a set o4 Pastel drawings (landscapes) by Thomas Gainsborough for which the carvers and gilders made super frames with pierced - fretwork style - borders which they called Chinese Chippendale Style. Here endeth the first lesson! Good hunting, Alan

MEASURE TWICE - CUT ONCE

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The mat maker
 
go to the search engine www.google.com

search for "China Trade Antiques"

There is no specific thing which is "China Trade" but there is a wide variety of trade goods going in both directions. Chinese art in western frames or western art in Chinese frames and everything in between. Very interesting!
 
SEE ALSO martyngregory.com

Thanks to all for your warm welcome. It'
s made an old man feel wanted at last.
Dermot - sorry to spoil your day but it's not 2 Scots and yourself against the rest but an Englishman,a Scotsman and an Irishman . You will know how many jokes that line has led to. After 3 years in the wonderful and welcoming Scottish border countryside we are thinking of applying for Sottish citizenship if the country ever does become independent.

Alan
Measure twice - cut once
Cut the long sides first
And remember always that it's not what you do but the way that you do it

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The mat maker
 
Alan

I will start with the Jokes look at Irish Jokes on the Warped Moulding, if I post the joke on The Grumble here (this area is for level headed posting most of the time) "Good Old Sue" will send the Grumble cyber police after me.




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Dermot
"May you never forget what is worth remembering, or remember what is best forgotten"
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by framechick:
in case the Grumbler who knows what these are was on vacation in November. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Hold on there, Framechick. A Grumbler on vacation in November??!! Around here that's called retirement or unemployment!!

Sorry, I don't know what China Trade Frames are and I can't even make up a convincing story.

Ron


[This message has been edited by RonEggers (edited January 12, 2002).]
 
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