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If there are any of you who use box tape to seal packages or package framed pieces, could you please tell me what brand/supplier you are having success with. It seems like all the tapes we have tried don't adhere to cardboard like they used to. Now when I was a kid, I can remember...
 
Scotch Light Duty Sealing tape, Cat. 3901-6
Comes in pkg of 6 rolls 1.88 in. x 109 yds. Available at Staples, Meijer, etc. Very good price/performance balance. There are probably stronger tapes out there,but they're a lot more expensive.
:cool: Rick
 
Personally, I seal only "packages" (the 'guts') that utilize preservation/conservation techniques - thus I seal with Scotch 888 3M Conservation tape, purchased from United.

As for the back of framed pieces, I always use dust covers.....never tape.
 
Scotch "Super Strength for Heavy Packages" Cat. 3850-6.
Comes in pkg. of 6 rolls 1.88 in. x 54.6 yds. Available at Sam's Club and other fine stores. There are probably cheaper tapes out there, but they're a lot weaker. :D

We buy this tape for about $16 per 6-pack; about 1.6 cents per foot. A 16 x 20 frame takes about 13 cents worth. For a small shop building no more than 50 frames a week, I think the cost difference is not an issue. So I splurge a little.

The Scotch tapes are strong polyester film with a non-migrating, very aggressive acrylic adhesive. Actually not a bad outside-of-the-package tape for preservation framing. And if we place it on the outside edges of the frame, the dustcover's ATG sticks to it magnificently.

We used to buy the thinner tape Rick uses, but found that it shreds if we try to remove it. This heavier tape peels off in one piece, taking old dustcover ATG with it.

This is good, because I want to make my life easier when the frame comes back in 20 years for a mat color update. I'll be about Paul Frederick's age by then, and I might not have the patience to scrape off ATG residue.
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We always fill the frame, but the tape lines pad the fitting points and make a nice, smoooooth transition from frame rabbet to filler board.

And for poly frames, the tape lines "unitize" the assembly of frame to filler board. So, a 40" square frame made of spaghetti-like poly moulding comes out solid as a rock.
 
Originally posted by Sherry Lee:
...As for the back of framed pieces, I always use dust covers.....never tape.
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Good point, I agree. We put the tape UNDER the dustcover as described above.
 
"box tape to seal packages"

I thought I knew of some but it appears that I'm way way under qualified to tape a box.
 
So Jim......

one doesn't need to use conservation tape when taping the sides of a conservation framing package ("guts")...CC glass, rag matboard to rag or a/f foamboard (to keep 'debris' from entering)???

(a "puzzled" icon is needed for here.....a framer scratching his/her head) I COULD USE SUCH AN ICON OFTEN!!
 
BTW: It is NOT Scotch Tape.... it is 3M Scotch BRAND Tape.....

3M (Minnisota Mining and Milling) makes dozens of cellophane tapes that are not "Scotch Brand".
 
Originally posted by Baer Charlton:
BTW: It is NOT Scotch Tape.... it is 3M Scotch BRAND Tape.....
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Yes it is, Baer. Right here on this label it says "Scotch" along with the rest of the description.
 
Originally posted by Sherry Lee:
So Jim......

one doesn't need to use conservation tape when taping the sides of a conservation framing package ("guts")...CC glass, rag matboard to rag or a/f foamboard (to keep 'debris' from entering)???
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How much preservation do you want?

For the very best preservation framing I would suggest taping the frame package or lining the rabbet with Lineco's 1-1/4" wide, blue paper/foil rabbet lining tape. Foil is one of only two gas-impermeable barriers useful in framing; the other one is glass.

For moderate preservation, I would suggest taping with the Scotch Super Strength mentioned above. This would isolate the frame package and provide some sealing from the rabbet. The polyester tape is not a gas-impermeable barrier, but it would be an effective filter for a long time -- a better "barrier" than 4-ply matboard, for example.

For everyday framing, where long term preservation is not an issue, I would suggest taping the frame back as described above. Of course, this does nothing to seal the rabbet or isolate the frame package. It just makes a stronger, more professional framing job. It's worth spending a minute and a few feet of tape.

Tru Vue Conservation Clear is the "default" glazing in our FrameReady software, and it is our recommendation unless Museum Glass is appropriate for the job -- but we always promote the virtues of UV filtering. All of our mats are alphacellulose, and we use ArtCare Foam center board and fluted polypropylene routinely. No boxboard, rubber cement, or masking tape in any frame of ours.
 
Originally posted by Baer Charlton:
3M (Minnisota Mining and Milling)
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And as long as we're splitting hairs, it's Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing.

I'm pretty sure El Framo wants to seal some boxes - not frame packages.

I use whatever's on the shelf at Office Depot.
 
I normally don't use any tape to seal the frame package unless I used a point gun instead of brads in the fit-up. Points tend to come loose and there is nothing that irks me more than loose points rattling around in the frame package. I use white framer's tape to anchor the points after I push in any loose ones. The tape also protects the dustcover from being perforated by points.

Dave Makielski
 
3M #375 0 carton sealing tape, have used it for literally thousands of pkgs. Good adhesion - strong tape. Like most tapes if stored or applied in a cold environment the adhesion is not as good. Comes in clear and tan. Our Grumble sponsor United Mfg carries it at a very good price.
 
Can't...see...the screen...with all the...fur flying...in here.

Yes Ron, I was refering to sealing boxes and packages, not frame packages. We have two locations, so we need to package finished pieces to travel from our shop to the other retail space. We had no problem until about a year ago, and all of a sudden nothing worked. We tried different suppliers for cardboard, as well as numerous tapes, but to no avail. I appreciate the input on box sealing tapes.

A happy and prosperous New Year to all.
 
Perhaps next time you should mention "Boxes" in the title of the thread. Maybe something like "Box Tape". Then in your question make sure to mention "cardboard". That should eliminate the confusion.
 
In the porn industry the term package has an entirely different meaning as well.
 
Originally posted by Jim Miller:
How much preservation do you want?

Now, isn't that a LOADED question? Perhaps it should be asked, "How much preservation is required?" I know that's been discussed MANY times, but it never seems to have a clear-cut final answer. What does FACTS say? What's the answer to it on the CPF exam? I'm thinken' there is NO concrete answer since "a little", "medium", "moderate", "loaded" (museum glass and all!) don't seem to be options. This is probably one of the 'grayest' areas in the study of framing.....thus, I always lean on the side of caution and probably do "overkill" (sounds like it from this thread anyway).

Having these discussions are great!!
 
I like talking about cardboard and shipping tape. CP talks give me a headache. Get your own thread!


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Just to warp it more!~

Moderate conservation framing = almost pregnant? There are too many shops who are almost pregnant!~LOL
 
Originally posted by Jeff Rodier:
In the porn industry the term package has an entirely different meaning as well.
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So does "Box Tape"....

Jim, it says Kleenex on the side of a Tissue box too, doesn't make them Kleenexes either.

Thanks Ron, I remembered my faux pa as I was driving past the sugar mill this afternoon...

YES, I drive and think at the same time!
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