Blue Dog Print Question

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My sister-in-law is visiting from NC. and brought a Blue Dog print for me re-frame (she was unhappy with the results she received from the local framer). She said it was a silkscreen-that was what her boyfriend told her- and he claims it is what the Blue Dog Gallery people told him. I don't claim to know alot about art, but this sure looks computer generated to me. The pixels are obvious to the naked eye, not just under a magnifier. She told me her friend paid $1800.00 for the print. So, can anyone tell me if the gallery sold her friend a bill of goods, or is her boyfriend selling her a bill of goods. Would a computer generated print really sell for $1800.00? The image is of the Blue Dog by a fire hydrant. It is signed and numbered, low edition, low number.
 
So, guessing she did not buy it at the Japan gallery location she bought it in Carmel or New Orleans.

The main web site is www.bluedogart.

That will take you to the real site located HERE.

On the site, according to the Silkscreen Page they sell for from $650 to $10,000.00.

The Paintings of Paper start at $9,000.00.

An Original Oil begins at $20,000.00.

And they don't even begin to bother with a starting on the Oversize, Hand Embelished Silk Screens

All that said, while I think the images are cute, if it wasn't selling for less than 20.00 I really wouldn't go buying one.

But your question was is this a screen or a computer print.

The Blue Dog, image was used (for a sum of money I'm guessing) by a computer company. If I remeber they were using it to sell printers, by saying how good the printers can print the dog image and the vibrant colors. So a computer print is not out of the realm of possibility.

While the web site makes no mention of computers or gicles, it is possible it is a new medium for exploitation and artist cultivatuion of a profit center.

Combine this with the fact that some gallery people don't always know excactly what they are selling, and have a bunch of good lines to help close the sale, and you are stuck at a big giant Who Knows?

So, the big question is: Screen Print or Computer Print, is it only worth the paper it is printed on, or is it, for some etherial reason, worth more?

If she bought as an investment, then it's really only worth what she ends up selling it for.

If she bought it because she liked the art, then it is worth whatever she is willing to pay for the image.

If it was printed from a genetically engenieered cows udders spurted out using multi-colored milk, it is still worth only what she is willing to pay.

The prices on the website are pie in the sky.

In a private room, to close the sale, the price comes down to what the seller is willing to let it go for, and what the buyer feels good at.

So that 20,000.00 list price gets sold for 14,000. And the buyer still says it is worth 20,000, and the seller lists the next painting at 20,000 to.

1800.00 is alot to pay for a piece of paper, be it screened, computer, or cows milk (ok, I'd pay to see the cows milk one being made).

But, like framing, its all about selling the dream. Selling visual beauty.

Can you put a price on that?
 
Pamela
If the artist creates his color separations with a photo sensitive film or emulsion, a serigraph (silkscreen) could look as if it were photo mechanically reproduced, ie. pixels showing.
To tell if it is a serigraph look in a large flat colored area for a silk thread pattern imprinted into the ink.
 
According to the blue-dog website, the arttist actually draws each color separation himself.NO computer, or color separation thru modern means.

"He makes a separate drawing on tracing paper for every color within the print. The different shades of blue in the dog alone, for example, can include as many as eight separate drawings. "
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I'd still like to see the multi-color cow udder thing.
 
I seem to recall that the image you are talking about has been around for quite some time -- one of the earlier ones when he just started getting famous. I do believe it was even in a calendar of Blue Dog art we had a few years ago. Thus, it could very well be worth the amount mentioned....however duplicated, of course with artist OK and signature.

The key may be WHERE the piece was purchased -- I don't think they are readily available out of New Orleans & Carmel galleries.
 
Please excuse a novice's point of view. But when I read;

If the artist creates his color separations with a photo sensitive film or emulsion, a serigraph (silkscreen) could look as if it were photo mechanically reproduced, ie. pixels showing.
To tell if it is a serigraph look in a large flat colored area for a silk thread pattern imprinted into the ink.
It was almost exactly what i wanted to point out.On a seragraph or silk screen The ink ias squeed through a fabric and if it is not evenly applied it could leave a dot like application.
Further more all the Dogs I ahve seen are seragraphs ,other then the one of a kind images which can be done in a multitude of Mediums.(includeing a gold colored felt tipped pen ( Zsa Zsa Tiffany)) The later was seen at a PBS Art Auction here in N'awlins.Hope this helps considering my lack of Knowledge,haveing only done 3-4 silk screens myself.
BUDDY
 
Well, I am just as confused as ever as to what "art form" this might be. For the record, I think it is ugly and wouldn't even want it for free. It absolutely has pixels showing, not what might be paint through a screen. I just hate the thought my sister-in-law's friend might be telling her it is something it isn't. I don't care how much he paid. She would have been thrilled with it even if he spent a fraction of what he says he did. At first glance, it does look like a silkscreen, but those pixels just bother me. Thanks anyway. I guess I'll just reframe it, keep my mouth shut, and maybe someday my curiosity will be satisfied.
 
Am I supposed to like those things??? Or think that this is great art???
 
Pamela,I don't mean to beat this dead horse any more but Is the print signes and is it done so in what looks like a gold marker? If you remeber the one of a kind Dog,ZSA-ZSA Tiffany,it was done in a gold marker. Well the reason I ask and the reason I bring that back up is that has kind of become a trade mark of George Rodrigue ,he signs all his work in a Gold Felt tip Marker.
So if it so signed and it is numbered you could contact his Gallery here in N.O.at

Rodrigue Studios
Sunday 12 noon to 5 PM
Monday -Saturday 10 am to 6 PM
WWW.GEORGERODRIGUE.COM
721 Royal St. 70116 ...........504-581-4244
New Orleans Louisiana
I 'm sure they can verify it's authenticity or would be VERY happy to know about any fakes.
I'm sorry to Frankenthread this post but maybe I can put ot to rest.
BUDDY
 
That makes the most reasonable thing to do. Feel no shame for looking out for your friend. You may save her from many more deceiving problems in that relationship. Will C.
 
willcu59 said:
That makes the most reasonable thing to do. Feel no shame for looking out for your friend. You may save her from many more deceiving problems in that relationship. Will C.
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Hi, willcu59. Welcome to the Grumble! :)
 
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