Best POS software?

randydiderrich

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I'm looking for advice about the best/easiest to use POS software.
Our shop is small, 5 employees, and we've hand-written orders for 19 years.
Any advice we be fantastic!

Thank you.
 
Welcome Randy.

There are 3 or so major software POS systems for the industry. Lifesaver, Wizard, and Frameready. They are all good.

Do you prefer a Chevy or a Ford? That is the real question. So you have to get a demo if each and take them for a test drive.
 
they all take a learning curve but I use Lifesaver and really like it.

Find the LifeSaver Tips and tricks thread in the Software forum. A grumbler who's screen name is Mike Labbe has a link in his signature to a page that has a comparative chart for the POS's available. We are all loyal to the one we pick, so a frameReady user will rave as much about frameReady as I rave about LifeSaver.

The Grumble is a great source for answers and tips when using the POS's.

Here's his link page. ;)
 
Welcome to the Grumble!

I think we will all be glad to tell you that the one we are invested in is the best, but this is something that really needs some hands-on research - in my opinion. The truth is that most of us are only familiar with the one we bought, so we can't give a neutral/fair opinion of how the others currently compare. For example, we use LifeSaver in our shop - but I couldn't tell you much about Specialtysoft or FrameReady.

Specialtysoft should also be listed in the top products, IMO, as this is another of the popular products. (the above list mentioned only 3 )

We have done annual POS surveys of forum members for the past 9 years, which show what people on this forum have chosen, how many workstations we have on average, how/how often we do backups, how many still do it on paper or use a spreadsheet, etc You can view nine years of results at http://www.custompictureframing.com/poll_results.htm#tech

My advice is to pick a few products, download their free demos, try the products out with your staff, and call each of the companies with with a pre-sales technical question. This will let you make an informed decision, while testing to see how good the support staff behind the product is.

We're fortunate in this industry to have so many choices in software, and that they're so competitively/reasonably priced. In other industries similar to this one, you would expect to pay upwards of 15k for a POS system, and about $1000 per year for support and updates. The initial investment is almost nothing, and the payback is probably less than year. You'll have reliable price updates available, with daily changes, and won't be leaving money on the table or selling products that were recently discontinued. Your staff will be using a common format that is easy to learn, and produces professional and legible paperwork which doesn't list "part numbers" of the components; which could be taken to a big box or competitor.

The system will notify you when something is discontinued, so you can take down the samples. You'll have a complete customer order history, going forward, when a customer wants to do a piece similar to one in the past - but with todays prices, you'll be automatically building a mailing list as you go, pricing will be much quicker and accurate than on paper - especially when comparing several components. There are many other benefits, but it is the right thing to do. Most systems allow you to have multiple workstations, sharing the same databases. Most will also allow misc sales of art, gifts, and other items. Most will optionally do credit card processing through your internet connection, and can tie into an optional automatic cash drawer, barcode reader, narrow receipt printer, etc.

Good luck on your quest for the best product that works for your situation.

if you run into any general questions, don't be shy to ask on this forum

Mike
 
Welcome to the "G", Randy!

I wouldn't open a frameshop without POS software now that I have it. Mike only touched on the many advantages of using a good POS system so test drive the majors and go forward.

By the way, as far as most frameshops go, five employees is not a small outfit.

Enjoy your travels here and I hope you find this community to be as helpful and sharing as I have. You undoubtedly will have much to offer too.
 
Good Advice...

Welcome to the Grumble Randy,

If you do a Search for this topic you will find numerous threads and as Mike Labbe mentioned, people typically will tout the POS software that they selected. A few framers have real experience with two different brands, while hardly any really know three that well.

With that in mind, I would follow Mike's suggestions below...

Mike Labbe @ GTP said:
....We have done annual POS surveys of forum members for the past 9 years, which show what people on this forum have chosen, how many workstations we have on average, how/how often we do backups, how many still do it on paper or use a spreadsheet, etc You can view nine years of results at http://www.custompictureframing.com/poll_results.htm#tech

My advice is to pick a few products, download their free demos, try the products out with your staff, and call each of the companies with with a pre-sales technical question. This will let you make an informed decision, while testing to see how good the support staff behind the product is....

I'll add to his good advice with this....The Big Three are LifeSaver, SpecialtySoft and FrameReady. This doesn't mean that they are any better - it does mean that they have more customers in the field, hence they might have critical mass to be here tomorrow or in 5 years. Also to be seriously considered would be the fourth player, Integrated Framer (Wizard). You might want to compare any of these four POS suppliers. (We're assuming that you are located in North America.)

Also recognize that each POS software has it's strengths and weaknesses according to a particular user. Some folks like this but not that....and so forth. Make a list of those features and applications you feel most important to you.

Visit the WCAF show in January and test drive the software - this is one of the few places where all four of the players listed above are together for you to visit at the same time.

Good luck. You'll be happy that you made this move.

John
 
Most of us have only used one or two POS programs, so whatever POS program we use, we tend to think it is the best because we are familiar with it and not the others.

Personally, I started out with FullCalc in 1994. I was completely unfamiliar with computers and needed a lot of hand-holding, and the early-version software was plagued with technical difficulties. Still, I was satisfied with FullCalc until the company changed ownership and the technical support became intolerable.

In desperation, I switched to FrameReady in 2000. The program has remained almost completely trouble-free for all of these 12 years and their tech support is wonderful. When I call for help to extract a seldom-needed report, add new items, or do other infrequent work that is unfamiliar to me, they respond quickly and thoroughly. FrameReady is also a good citizen in the framing community, participating in PPFA and helping educate framers, and sponsoring seminars such as my class on all aspects of order processing.

Yes, any of the major POS programs might serve your purposes, since they all have similar capabilities for the essential functions. But if you try them all, you can identify the one you like best. Give each of them a fair trial, because you wouldn;t want to overlook the one you might like best.
 
I'm looking for advice about the best/easiest to use POS software.
Our shop is small, 5 employees, and we've hand-written orders for 19 years.
Any advice we be fantastic!

Thank you.

I've been using Custom Framer-Art for a few years. (www.artframer.com)

It is very well priced and doesn't have a yearly subscription fee. You can download a demo version to test it out. It can be used in visualisation mode or normally and calculates the prices at the same time and has many other neat functions. You may need to get comfortable with the program first. It may or may not work for you.

Cheers

Michele
 
Welcome to the G Randy.


The best advice is to talk to some of the major companies out there, request demos, ask to speak to some of their clients, etc. It's not a huge investment really, but it is a big purchase because (as those that have switched will tell you) once you are on one you will want to stick with it forever.

There are many folks on here who can give you advice as both a user and some as an advisor (or similar) to the company themselves. To his credit, I know Mike Labbe works with Lifesaver quite a bit (I don't know if he is paid/does it out of the kindness of his heart/doesn't like any time to relax/etc) but he never goes on a strong sell to get someone to go the Lsav route. His writeup is pretty fair. Others on this board have relationships with SpecialtySoft in capacities other than just as a user. I hope as folks are recommending things to you they let you know if they are connected to the software as more than just a user.

For one, I have used SpecialtySoft, FullCalc, Lifesaver and have taken a good hard look at the Wizard POS at various times. I will tell you that some work more intuitively (for me FC and SSS) while others are quite a bit more robust in their ability to work up a frame order (like Wizard and Lsav). Reporting wise SSS was the leader for some time but the Lsav came out with web reporting and really changed the game. From a support standpoint SSS, Lsav and Wizard are all very good and FullCalc improved once they changed some of their support staff.

They all have pros and cons. Since you don't know who plays for who the best advice is to contact the major folks, explain your business, take the demo (and any demonstrations they will give you) and then see what you are most comfortable with. You will always be your own best reference.

FullCalc
SpecialtySoft
Lifesaver
Wizard Retail Managment

For any I left off, I apologize but I'm sure someone else will post more links for those I may have forgotten.
 
in response to your responses...

Thank you for all of the great responses and especially for taking time out of your busy (I hope) day!
I will get demos of the major 4, and start the dissection.
 
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