Help Attaching pictuer to the canvas

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NYJim

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The customer brought me an oil painting on canvas . The painting is old and painted on thin fabric. Customer doesn't want to stretch this painting on the stretcher he wants to show edges of the painting. So I'm planing to attach his painting to the canvas which I can attach to the foam and make his painting float.
Is any creative way to attach painting to the fabric/canvas if painting is about 48 by 70 inches?

Thank you
 
I would say a few S hinges with linen hinging tape.

Ive done something like this with a smaller painting then you are working with, and it worked great.

Im sure others will have ideas different.
 
I'd probably use strips of linen canvas as passover hinges and pva (Lascaux) adhesive also hinging loosely on the edges at the bottom, float mounting it to an archival polyflute board slightly smaller than the painting. This float could then be attached to the backing substrate before framing.

You might consider DiBond as an overall substrate which could be fabric wrapped for texture and color.
 
NYJim said:
The customer brought me an oil painting on canvas . The painting is old and painted on thin fabric.

painting is about 48 by 70 inches?
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If you don't know I would highly recommend a conservator.
 
Not sure why a conservator would be needed for this project. It sounds like the customer knows what he wants to do and it isn't that complicated to do it. I would suggest glazing over the mini (meaning thin) shadowbox though.
 
Mini what? It's a painting on thin fabric and is 48x70"

I would be hesitant to do anything, I may be wrong but the condition and size make thing very unpredictable IMO. Sounds to me like the piece should be mounted onto a new substrate by a conservator.
 
It can be hinged with no problem unless the canvas itself is rotting.
 
We would probably hinge the canvas to a rag board that is slghtly smaller than the canvas itself. We would seam the board as necessary. Then we would wrap a sturdy substrate with linen and float the hinged convas on the fabric covered board. The canvas is so large that finding any attractive board to float it on would be difficult, but with fabric you can go much larger. This is really no different that what we do with most oversize floats. I would then add a direct contact overlay with Optium Acrylic

We delivered on of these last night, except that the art was a 46 x 66 photo with burned edges. Photo hinged to hidden 4 ply, 4 ply glued to backing covered with balck linen. Backing was an 8 ply over ployflute.

I would like to hear what Jim Miller has to say about the hinging material for the canvas. Rob, could Beva play a role in this?
 
Kirstie said:
We would probably hinge the canvas to a rag board that is slghtly smaller than the canvas itself. We would seam the board as necessary. Then we would wrap a sturdy substrate with linen and float the hinged convas on the fabric covered board. The canvas is so large that finding any attractive board to float it on would be difficult, but with fabric you can go much larger. This is really no different that what we do with most oversize floats. I would then add a direct contact overlay with Optium Acrylic

We delivered on of these last night, except that the art was a 46 x 66 photo with burned edges. Photo hinged to hidden 4 ply, 4 ply glued to backing covered with balck linen. Backing was an 8 ply over ployflute.

I would like to hear what Jim Miller has to say about the hinging material for the canvas. Rob, could Beva play a role in this?
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Kristie,
Thank you - I was thinking to mount canvas on the thicker canvas and then go as you have suggested.
I'm using Beva a lot to extend canvases before stretching but do you think I can use Beva to hinge thin old canvas to the rag board? If not Beva what would you use to hinge it? ..... Also do you have the picture of the photo that you have mentioned.
Thank you again
 
I would offer him to make a "sandwich". Painting, thick Mylar and glue it all
to the canvas. Painting, Beva in film, Mylar, Beva, canvas. Put it in vacuum table. Could be carefully done if you know your press. Than it could be attached to anything that is acid free. But than I have painting restorer doing this kind of work for me and I ask her opinion first.
 
Without seeing the thing it is hard to tell. Has it ever been on stretchers?
I'm thinking if there is unpainted areas around the edges (maybe old tack holes?), you could fix it to a bigger, ready-stretched piece of canvas. You could put stitches though any existing holes.
If this isn't desirable or possible, then hinging as previously suggested. But I would be a bit wary of this. Old fabric can react in strange ways.

Check with a conservator. ;)
 
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