Are you losing art and frame sales to TV's

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We are losing art and framing sales to Flat Screen TV's. Currently the big question is how to hide the Flat screen. now you can use your art and frame and make additional profits from the mechanism and Flat Screen J-Box. I'm looking for Framers all accross the US to carry this product. The Audio Visual industry, (TV installers), need local framers to adapt my product. check it out at
www.tvcoverups.com and let me know. We are the only ones capable of useing the customers art and frame, and no one touches our price point. Ive been a picture framer for 28 years in the same location, and know that I can't handle the demand for a custom product that I am creating within the audio visual industry. Does this interest anyone?
 
I couldn't find any prices for any of your products on your website. As a businessman I would want to know what the prices are without jumping through hoops to get them, otherwise I click on to the next point of interest to me.

So did I miss them or do I have to follow some sort of phone tag routine during normal business hours to get an idea of what they would cost me??
 
Wasn't this already posted on the Grumble in the past? I remember reading about it before.

Shouldn't this be posted in the Commercial forum, as it is an obvious post to solicit sales?
Oh, I see it is posted there also, so it really shouldn't be here.
 
When you think about it, we are losing business as a result of wall-mounted televisions. Those TVs are squatting on our territory. They keep getting bigger too.
 
"Hey everybody, their taking up our space! Let's get 'em!!" :P

Personally, I would rather frame a flatscreen than hide it.
 
Paul N said:
Tom:

You can find his prices under Downloads:

http://www.tvcoverups.com/tvc/downloads.htm
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Thanks, Paul, I would never have thought to look for prices in a download section but that's the way my mind operates sometimes!

Verdaccio said:
"Hey everybody, their taking up our space! Let's get 'em!!" :P

Personally, I would rather frame a flatscreen than hide it.
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My thoughts exactly, Mike. There is no extensive installation, no wiring to be done, no large purchases before ever getting started unless you are framing out in a large Roma or equivalent. And the profit margin would be a whole lot greater than a keystone markup on someone else's creation.

I am not completely sold on this concept as yet.
 
If I understand correctly that the AV people do the installation of the box and wiring, I would be happy to frame out a cover piece, at usual and customary rates, which I would hand off to the AV folks for integration with the product.

My overall gut reaction, though, is that when you are watching the TV, the art and frame looks like an open garage door.
 
There is definitely a market for framing Plasma, / HD TV. In some parts it is growing fast in others still in is early stages.

I believe that a nice frame and a screen saver showing art (Mona Lisa, a Picasso, Kinkade (shudder...)...might be a easier on the eye and a better selling point.
 
Sounds like a Poll question to me

Have you framed a TV?

I'll answer by saying that we haven't even been asked yet
 
I wonder if there's a frame unit to cover up that dorky looking fireplace?
;) Rick

P.S. One of the major manufacturers (I think it's Panasonic) is already selling custom frame options for their TVs.
 
I have built 2 frames for flat screens and am letting people know that I know how to do them. These and the home theater rooms are the up and coming thing in my area and we have framed and installed over a hundred movie posters so far into home theaters along with a custom built marquee box that was lit with little lights all around the interior and had a hinged door on the front so the owner can change the movie poster and also the marquee indicator for "Now Showing" and "Coming Attraction". That was one cool unit, polished brass inside and out, thick plexiglas door, double lock top and bottom, and wired to be installed either in a junction box or plug-in (hard wired and also soft wired).

I wonder about the "AV people" handling an installation of this type (the swing up TV art) with the box mounted in the interior of the wall?? Do AV people have the knowledge to determine a load bearing wall?? Do they know enough to build a header top and bottom to support the hole that is cut into the wall and wall studs to install this unit?? Those 2 questions alone would give me serious pause about trusting anyone who is good at hanging a TV on a wall to install a structural portion into that same wall. It isn't just a situation where you cut a neat hole in the drywall and chop out a few 2x4's to accomodate the video/theater box. You can do some serious damage to that person's home if you don't know what the heck you are doing.
 
Framerguy, when you say to not hide it, do you mean just put a frame around the TV and leave the screen and all exposed? I don't imagine that would look very good.

Any chance you could post some pictures?
 
Uh, run that one by me one more time ...........

Paul Cascio said:
Framerguy, when you say to not hide it, do you mean just put a frame around the TV and leave the screen and all exposed? I don't imagine that would look very good.

Any chance you could post some pictures?
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I went back and checked my earlier posts and I don't see any mention about "not hiding" anything. :shrug: I think that Mike mentioned that he would rather frame a TV than hide it and I agree. The markup on the framing would be more profitable and a quicker turnover than the keystone on the TV box and lift mechanism, I would imagine.

But to answer your question, yes, I did build both frames to go around the screen while leaving the screen exposed. That was according to the customers' wishes and my boss's directives. As far as how it looked, I haven't a clue, we don't install those types of things. We have a "hangman" who we pass along to our customers for stuff that we either don't have time to do or don't feel like doing. For instance, he recently installed 2 large abstracts on a great room wall about 16' above the marble floor at the end of a short walkway. He had the ladders and scaffolding and extra crew to handle this type of job so we didn't take any chances with dropping our customer's work. I didn't take photos of the frames before they left the shop as they looked like any other frame to me.

I can say that the second one I designed was for a TV that had a rather wide border around the screen and the customer wanted to cover up that border with "something" so only the screen showed through the opening. I used a wide based float frame in matte black to coordinate with the gray of the TV and designed a stack of an ornate Engleson frame on the top of the float frame. I joined the float in reverse of how it normally is done so only the screen showed out of the opening and the Roma mated up to the edge of the float frame when it was installed. I showed our installer how I designed it to be hooked onto the TV as best as I could according to the customer's photos of the TV and her measurements and he didn't call back so I assume that everything went well with the final installation.
 
tvcoverups pricing

There is a price list in the download section of the website of www.tvcoverups.com

Framerguy said:
I couldn't find any prices for any of your products on your website. As a businessman I would want to know what the prices are without jumping through hoops to get them, otherwise I click on to the next point of interest to me.

So did I miss them or do I have to follow some sort of phone tag routine during normal business hours to get an idea of what they would cost me??
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