archival shadowbox?

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Class

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First off let me thank everybody who helped me figure out how to hang my last piece, the 40x60 thing... the customer loved it and I was happy to have done something so large (and somewhat complicated) this early in my larva stages of framing.
I now have a ticket from the Negro World Series. A sad yet awesome piece of Americana. I want to shadowbox/float it, they want me to shadow box/float it. The problem is how would I attach the ticket to the foamboard. I was thinking artist tape wraped in reverse but even that might be too harsh if it needs to be removed. Any ideas?
 
If the back is plain, I probably would use mulberry paper and wheat starch paste and hinge it. If not, I might tried clear film or mesh fabric mount.

I would not under any circumstance use pressure sensitive tape.
 
Items such at the ticket, described, have a value that is closely attatched to their conditions and displaying the ticket, in a frame will expose it to enough light that the it is likely to fade and loose value. If the ticket is scanned and a good copy is framed, the original can be kept in the dark in a consrvation quality folder, where it should maintain its value.



Hugh
 
I thought of that and suggested such originally but the client insisted. Plus there is already some tearing here and there (the kept the thing in a book for who knows how long). Thanks
 
If the client insists on framing the ticket, you might think in terms of a non-hinge means of secruing the ticket, since the paste that a hinge requries may affect its value, someday.
It could be held in place with a polyester sheet "Mylar" covering of a window that is cut to be slightly larger than the ticket or with other similar means.



Hugh
 
realize that they dont want to repro BUT if they go that way they can also have the backside showing up, put the orig in a mylar envelope and put it inside that package(with a note on the cover saying as much)...no fuss, no muss, the original is "safe & sound"--no monetary devaluation due to further degradation on ticket, they get to see both sides at once, you get paid(extra for your trouble/idea) to be the resident guru/genius
 
I rarely understand these types of concerns. Let me paraphrase.

Framer: My customer wants to preserve this in a frame.
Expert: It can’t be preserved in a frame.
Framer: Yea I know so how do I preserve this in a frame?

If we were very honest with our customers about the fact that these items don’t benefit in a frame, then why be so worried about framing it. I say ATG! Ok so maybe I wouldn’t ATG it but I wouldn’t have any ill feelings toward anybody who did.

What if they wanted to take the ticket swimming with them? You advise them that it doesn’t belong in the pool. If they insist then who cares how you keep it dry? Sandwich it in between two pieces of duct tape! I’m not pointing a finger at you but I don’t think enough shops will say “It doesn’t belong in the pool – and if we do it will likely be destroyed.” I think if we shared the implications of hanging irreplaceables in a frame more thoroughly, we wouldn’t have near as many “but they insist they want it in the pool” type questions.

How big are these tickets we are about to destroy? I like the mylar idea. Or you could cut two reverse bevels back to back and sandwich the tickets in the groove they create. Or hinge it. I'd probably put some tape on it.
 
Agian thanks to everybody for the advice but I have found my final idea, which is this... glass, mylar, ticket, mylar glass, matting, glass. Kind of a "true float". It actually looks really cool.
 
Class said:
Agian thanks to everybody for the advice but I have found my final idea, which is this... glass, mylar, ticket, mylar glass, matting, glass. Kind of a "true float". It actually looks really cool.
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Here's a mat, glass, mat, fillet, mylar, banknote, mylar, fillet, mat, glass!
 

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John what the heck is wrong with you?!?! That table is way to clean.....mess that thing up!

















nice framing by the way......when are you soming back to the states my friend? Do I have to plan another shindig????
 
John - I want to know what you did to attach the ATG gun to the wall, along with the brush, and glue bottle?

(heehee)
Very Nice presentation on the framing project...
 
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Originally Posted by Steph
John what the heck is wrong with you?!?! That table is way to clean.....mess that thing up!

Sorry - just that I had a glut of glass interleaving paper




Quote:
Originally Posted by Steph
nice framing by the way......when are you coming back to the states my friend? Do I have to plan another shindig????

Just as soon as I fill my framer/manager post - the vacancy is the reason I'm not there right now!




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Very Nice presentation on the framing project

Thanks Sue and if I had a CMC or could've been bothered otherwise, I'd've reversed those bevels too!!
 
Very true, and I stock them too - under a different name ('hangezee' or something) - very rarely sell a set and have nothing on sale hung by them to demonstrate - reckon by even stocking them I am in a tiny minority in UK.

Watch this space!

Edit - not so sure now - a Google search for 'hangezee' brought me to a topic on The Grumble!!! and the link I put in there for 'hangezee' now takes you here!!!

Not sure I can buy wallbuddies in UK any more!
 
shadow box

I agree with Jay, but one thing we have done is to cut a piece of rag matboard about 1/8 inch smaller than the item, then wrap them together in mylar-D taping the back side, mylar to mylar. You can then float that object on whatever you want with ATG. It's simple and inexpensive. We do this with magazines and whole newspapers, and often insert the board inside the object.
 
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