Question Any Vintage Paper Experts on Here?

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I know this is not exactly framing related, but I figured someone here may be able to help.
Wanting to know if there are anyways to distinguish modern vs vintage papers.

Long story short I collect aviation signatures.
This is supposed to be of Ernst Udet who flew with the Red Baron, etc.
It arrived today and the blue paper is a bit of a suprise.

Should date between 1917 and 1930. Likely from a journal, scrap book or photo album.

Front is a little slick having less texture than the back. The texture shows up well in the scan. The back is a little rougher. Looks like tiny tiny tiny shiny specks throughout the paper as well.

Curious if anyone has any thoughts as to the age of the paper?
Thanks!
Steven
 

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Red Baron memorabilia

Steven,

Give Bill Bradley in Houston a phone call. If he doesn't know, he should be able to give you more contacts. I know for sure that he collects aviation memorabila from this era.

Bradley's Art & Frame

Bradley's Art & Frame
1306 Blalock Rd.
Houston, TX 77055
Phone (713)461-5695


John
 
How about trying to find a paper expert at UK? There`s an art museum, gotta have a conservator or two. L.
 
While not an expert, I had a client that collected signatures that we would mat so he could put them in sheet protectors in albums. We must have done over 5000 of them before he passed away.

The blue paper would not worry me on bit. There certainly were colored papers at the time. Many of John's signatures from that time period were on envelopes and some of those that we did were on blue paper.
 
I do fancy myself an expert in WW2 military signatures. I have several major pieces in my collection, but this one is a bit out of my area.

It is also too perfect, but at the same time, it would go down as one of the worse forgeries ever. I am having an extremely hard time finding a known good signature from the time period that this came from. His later and most commonly found signature is completely different. His signature is rare and in fairly high demand so fakes are nothing new, but usually they are of the known WW2 era signature on postcards, photos, etc. Not a relativily unknown between wars signature on a rather plain looking slip of blue paper.

The ink / pen looks good. Pressure looks natural, but again I don't have anything to compare to. That is why I was looking at the paper.

If someone could nail that paper down to the time era, I would accept it as being authentic.

Luddite - as much as UK and I don't get along ;) - I'll send an email at lunch to see if they can be of any help.
 
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