air compressor for Wizard 8000

jangal

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I'm soon to be the proud owner of a CMC. I was able to pickup a Demo model from my Distributor so it's coming Thursday, although I just purchased it this last weekend. It wasn't an impulse purchase, I've been wanting one for a long time now. The 28 opening mat order I took in last week was just the nudge I needed!

In hindsight I haven't researched the need for a compressor yet. Any ideas out there about what is required? I was hoping to get some specs off of the Wizard website, but need my product number first to register?
 
Jangal, CMC's don't use much air. Just about any little old $100. compressor will run it. Now how long will a cheapie last and how noisy it is, is a different question. As a former contractor I have several small pancake and scubatank type compressors I wish they would die so I could justify buying one of the silent compressors. In the meantime I have my CMC setting on a cabinet I build with doors below. I have a small compressor inside that cabinet and I put 2" strofoam insulation on top / sides and back of doors, cut noise about 50-60%. Fresh air is drawn in from a 2" grommet hole that the air hose run thru. Same compressor also powers my underpinner which use much more air. Seldom on at same time but can handle it.
 
Sears approx cost $269

I have it in the basement and run the airhose through the floor up to the CMC and the vnailer. Noise isn't too bad, but it has a large tank, so it doesn't kick on very often. Just remember to bleed the tank,and bleed the air lines, otherwise it does affect the air pressure on the wizard.

I don't have the details here, but it has worked really well.

Elaine
 
I got a quiet one. It isn't real quiet. I now have it in a mechinical closet. I would warn against buying a small one. Mine kicks on almost every time I use it and about 10 times a day if I don't use it.
 
Originally posted by Jay H:
I got a quiet one. It isn't real quiet. I now have it in a mechinical closet.
We also got a silent air compressor. It has a small fan attached to cool the unit (probably not needed).

The fan, which is not noisy at all, makes more noise than the compressor. The good thing is that, without the fan, you'd forget that the compressor is on!
 
It sounds like you have the same one as us, Printmaker. The blue CM50 ?

The cooling fan is louder than the compressor. It comes on so infrequently that we leave the cooling fan turned off. The compressor is so silent you could literally put it on the design counter while talking with a client, and they wouldn't realize it was running.

We use it to feed the vnailer and Wiz 8000, and it physically lives in the basement. While not necessary, it's down there simply because the lines were run to the basement for the previous (LOUD!) compressor. We have it on an X10 timer, so the power is only turned on during business hours.

While the CM50 is manufactured for AMS , I bet our own grumble sponsor (United) has something equivalent. I would check with both suppliers to compare. There's also the option of going for the name branded equivalent, at premium price (SilentAire, Bambi, etc)

The Wizard itself has a very low air requirement. As long as the air is clean and at least ~90 psi or above, I think it will be happy.

There was a recent thread about compressors, earlier this month, at:
http://www.thegrumble.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=010744#000004

There was also a grumble monthly survey about compressors, if you check the archives.

Best regards
Mike
 
I bought two. The first one less expensive but it was oil cooled and too smelly. It came with most of the attachments needed so I kept those, gave away the compressor and bought a sears 12 gal. Ordered it online. I turn it on in the morning, only noise for a short time. After the horrors of Mike's experience with the hose breaking, I don't leave it on all of the time. I think the specs say you need 90-100 psi, the mat cutter runs at about 62, preset by factory.
 
For optimum performance of your Wizard, the Air Compressor should be set to 110-120 psi. The Air Regulator, which is attached between the Air Compressor and the Board, is pre-set at the factory, and has a dial which should read around 60psi. Some Air Regulators do not have dials, so don't panic and think that your dial is missing. Just wanted to clarify that.
 
No worries. Just didn't want everyone dialing down their Air Compressor, then calling us cause the Blade wouldn't pierce the mat.
 
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