A Brief History of the Picture Frame

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Apparently a CD is also available with a 30 minute version of this - would be great to play in your shop!

[video=youtube;GVDg1Z8iBUI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=GVDg1Z8iBUI[/video]​
 
Short of getting a little bombastic in my response.....

Was this a high school project?

The producer, for whatever reason, ignores icons, jumps straight into
attached frames, all but ignores the Renaissance, shows a part of a
Spanish frame, ignores the Dutch and the Normans, races past early
Baroque and Rococo English, says Lou 15 twice while ignoring
Regents I & II .... has a picture of
Napoleon which he sticks in a Grand Baroque frame, after totally
writing off Lou 16 and Marie..... Jumps to a German Rococo mirror
frame while attributing it to France... mon deau....
Ignores any real shift in the entire matrix with the purge of Napoleon
and the Empire.. which killed or drove the arts to England and
America

Where America's frame contributions have nothing until Whistler
and Stanford White.... Then re-shows the Cassetta frame (yes
it does look like a chop and join from Bendix.....)
Lets forget the American Colonial, Federalist 1&2, Temperist,
Pre-Raphaelite, Craftsman Period which gave us Art Nouveau
and Deco.
Then there is the Impressionist period, which is not to be confused
with the regal frames of Europe.... but of boards nailed and painted
white... then the Bauhaus . . .

Gosh, I hope this guy is showing up on April 29th in Edmonton, AB
for my lecture.....
 
I wondered what your opinion of this was going to be, Baer. LOL - but doncha think for YouTube and the general public at least it is a beginning???
 
Baer, why are you getting all huffy about missing pieces in a 10 minute extract from a 30 minute presentation?
:kaffeetrinker_2:
 
Not to mention that they have left out the greatest innovation in framing according to the artist community. THE CHEAP BLACK FRAME. :bdh:


Nothing screams my art is carp like the cheap black frame.
 
Black frames actually do not scream "my art is carp". Ready made frames stacked everywhere made out of inexpensive, close out boxes of European moulding in standard sizes at 50% off all the time just might though. Mike
 
Great presentation! Thanks Mar.

Concerning American frames...has anyone seen Framerica's Carbon Fiber frame? Kinda Cool!
 
predictable...

If you'd like to see the entire presentation in person, during which Michael Pacitti will fill in the blanks, please join the Texas Gulf Coast Chapter of the PPFA on Sunday, April 1. Complete details:

When: Sunday, April 1 at 1:00

Where: Upper Bay Frame and Gallery, located at 18069 Upper Bay Road Houston, TX 77058 across from Johnson Space Center

This class promises to be full of great information and is a bargain at $30 for PPFA members, and $40 for non-members.

Complete information about the class, Michael Pacitti and registration:

Period Design is an interactive seminar that will provide an in-depth look at ornamentation as it applies to custom framing and interior design, helping participants understand the relationship of period design to style design. Michael will discuss a timeline of thirteen specific time periods, dating back from the ancient Egyptians all the way to the post-modernists.

By showcasing numerous visuals and storyboards that relate to each specific era, you’ll discover how Roma Mouldings reveal their own categories of architecture, art, motifs, color, patterns, and design.

With this knowledge, you’ll be able to relate each of the specific period design to Art, Custom Framing, Interior Design, and Color, bringing your expertise to a new level.

This class will also show how to recognize specific ornamental relationships in the Roma line and how they relate and apply to your overall framing designs. Whether you are a Custom Framing Designer, Interior Designer, Decorator, or Artist, this highly informative class will shed new light in discovering and recognizing the thirteen periods in design.

Each participant will receive a 400 page Color Flipbook™ on Period Design as well as a certificate of Achievement. This program is recognized as a credited course by IDEC Interior Design Educator’s Council.

Michael Pacitti, IDEC, CPF, has worked in the art, design and framing industry for more than 25 years.

He is currently associated with the Color Marketing Group and the Color Association of the United States (C.A.U.S) where he has been teaching seminars on color and design to interior designers and custom picture framers throughout North America, Europe, and China for 25 years.

He has also written numerous articles on color and design for Picture Framing Magazine and is a professional certified educator with IDEC Interior Design Educators Council, resulting in his accessible style of conducting informative and interactive workshops.

Because this class qualifies as continuing education for interior designers who are members of the American Society of Interior Designers (ASID), we would like to extend an invitation to professional interior designers. This is an opportunity for them to continue their professional development and is also an excellent opportunity for interior designers to learn more about what professional picture framers can offer them and their clients.

If you have friends or clients who are interior designers, please pass this information along to them and invite them to join us.

The cost for the class will be $30 for PPFA and ASID members, $40 for non-members.

Snacks and light refreshments will be served.

PLEASE RSVP! Because Michael will need to prepare the Flipbooks for each participant (alone worth well more than the cost of the class!) and certificates we will need a firm number of attendees along with names. Therefore it is very important that you RSVP to gulfcoastppfa@gmail.com with your business name and name and number of attendees.

Payment can be mailed to our chapter treasurer, Patty Mehmood, CPF at Heritage Frame Gallery, 1928 Fountain View Drive Houston, TX 77057.

By the way, this class has been presented twice at the WCAF to excellent reviews.
 
Short of getting a little bombastic in my response.....

Was this a high school project?

The producer, for whatever reason, ignores icons, jumps straight into
attached frames, all but ignores the Renaissance, shows a part of a
Spanish frame, ignores the Dutch and the Normans, races past early
Baroque and Rococo English, says Lou 15 twice while ignoring
Regents I & II .... has a picture of
Napoleon which he sticks in a Grand Baroque frame, after totally
writing off Lou 16 and Marie..... Jumps to a German Rococo mirror
frame while attributing it to France... mon deau....
Ignores any real shift in the entire matrix with the purge of Napoleon
and the Empire.. which killed or drove the arts to England and
America

Where America's frame contributions have nothing until Whistler
and Stanford White.... Then re-shows the Cassetta frame (yes
it does look like a chop and join from Bendix.....)
Lets forget the American Colonial, Federalist 1&2, Temperist,
Pre-Raphaelite, Craftsman Period which gave us Art Nouveau
and Deco.
Then there is the Impressionist period, which is not to be confused
with the regal frames of Europe.... but of boards nailed and painted
white... then the Bauhaus . . .

Gosh, I hope this guy is showing up on April 29th in Edmonton, AB
for my lecture.....


I can't make your lecture, can you tape it, or better yet video? I'll pay $15.00 for copy.
 
There is one out there floating about somewhere.... it was a pirate, so the
video is spotty, and the sound.... well, you get the picture.

But I did have darker hair back then.

The afternoon session "Telling a Better Story" ties in nicely with
the morning's session.... kind of "putting the new information
to work so to speak".
 
This is interesting, I'm afraid I can't watch the video (my computer is having a crisis) but it is topical, at least for me. I went back to university last year to get an art history degree and I'm currently doing a independent research project for my degree on Italian Renaissance picture frames. I figured since I've been a framer for ages it would be something to tie everything together. It's really very interesting, and reading about great Italian workshops like the Maiano family and Vittoria makes me feel a little more fancy as a framer, even as I'm showing a black metal frame for a Scarface poster (o.k, well maybe not exactly then...)
 
So would I . .

Last time I saw a snippet of it was about two years ago. Someone
had pieces on their phone....
If someone had the entire 2-1/2 hours.... it must be one heck of
a huge file. (I know my slides are 1.2 gigs....)

if anyone has a copy, send it to me FTP
 
Kinkade - - have you ever found an art history book that shows the painting AND the frame?

I never did.

And, I have never seen even a survey class on frames and framing... sad.

no wonder the artist think the frame is unimportant.
 
Baer, I have seen quite a few very early Renaissance altarpieces in original frames (before Brunelleschi's all'antica style) such as Gentile da Fabriano's Adoration of The Magi, at least I believe they are the original frames, if not copies of the originals. Fra Angelico's Annunciation from Cortona is said to have its original Brunelleschi-inspired frame and I've seen that in art books also. Botticelli and Michelangelo's tondos are pictured with frames in my painting textbook. For later Renaissance frames of the more domestic style, it seems very few are even associated with original artwork, never mind pictured with it. I am obsessed with the V&A's book on Renaissance frames that came out in 2010, it pictures each frame front and back on an entire page, but they're all empty save for the della Robbia terracotta tondos. I'm currently working on a section of my project about Sansovino and mannerist frames, and my entire thesis is on why frames from the Renaissance are so rare compared to other sculptural arts from the time. It's kind of cool that my professor let me choose this topic, I can work on it while at the store without feeling too guilty...
 
Short of getting a little bombastic in my response.....Was this a high school project?...Gosh, I hope this guy is showing up on April 29th in Edmonton, AB
for my lecture.....
What a happy coincidence! The Edmonton International Beer Fest is that same weekend. We might like to attend your lecture, Baer. What is the time and exact location? Is this associated with some art or framing event, and are there any other speakers? I wasn't able to find any mention of it in the Edmonton events calendars. Where can we get more information?
 
I have no problem to separate Louis XIII from Louis XVI, Charles Prendergast from Max Kuehne most of the time, but would love to learn more. As much as I can. So, if you tape your lecture at some point, please let me know.
 
Portland & the visit to the Chicken Farm.....& yes Picture Framing....

Ever watch Portlandia....?
There is an episode that involves the starring "couple" visiting a Portland "organic" restaurant.
The couple have a huge number of questions regarding the Chicken they are considering ordering.
Even though the Wait person (politically correctness Portland style) has provide as much info that any reasonable individual would require to make an informed decision they feel the need to actually visit the "free range" former home of their possible future dinner selection...
Frames & frame history...the next Portlandia episode....Baer perhaps you should write it? LOL
 
Baer, I know you know frames and the history therein, but,,,, if you must attack someone for putting out a video, and you don't have one to counter it with, well, it's a pointless argument isn't it? I mean, sure you may have the goods, and what you have in your memory may be 1000 times better than what is available, but if you aren't sharing your experience and this person is, then, well, please refrain from complaining.

I can pop their lack of knowledge into the dvd player and have it wash all over me, I can't do that with your knowledge. Yet. What is the saying "Publish or Perish"? Love ya, know you know frames, but if you aren't sharing and they are then they'll get my $5.

Mar, thank you for the clip. It'll help me in my learning about my craft.
 
Finally got a chance to watch the video. Any historical omissions aside, I like the intent, technique, and production. Anything that increases awareness of framing, its historical context, and its design possibilities is a good thing in my book. My only criticism is that there are a few typo and punctuation errors here and there. Also, I would have chosen alternates for some of the typefaces used... but that's my "font snob" sensibility coming through.
:cool: Rick
 
Jim, All I know (right now) is I have my flights..... you can talk to George Alvarez--
as I understand it, this is the PPFA Spring Session.
But if you were thinking of taking the class - - you already did so in 2006 or 7.

I don't know if there are any other speakers. All I know is
that I'm packing for snow and sun..... this winter is just too darn screwy.

Bob, there are many of us that don't video tape our classes, because that
is our bread and butter. I got a ration of grief here because my DVD on
fabric wrapping wasn't priced at $9 the same as Walmart was selling
Dumb and Dumber.

Well - - amazingly enough.. this year at WCAF, we (Frank's Fabrics)
decided that if you came by and bought even a $5 corner tool.... you would
walk away with a FREE DVD.

I have taught this lecture from Anaheim, CA - - across the Atlantic - - in
Amsterdam and London and many many points in between... including at
the New England chapter about 4 years ago. When I taught it in an open
to the water venue in St Johns BVIs.... I think I was more of the distraction.

A few years back, Frank offered to any PPFA Chapter, that he would send
me for a full day of fabric wrapping..... every chapter was also offered that
the night before, I would to the history lecture. NOT ONE.... to us up on it.
And of the 23 chapters.... only 4 rose to the occasion. I guess everyone
else thought that I was too expensive..... is there something cheaper than
free?

We want chops to come through our doors for free... and then scream when
someone might start charging for samples.

Am I rambling? No - - it's all the same problem. You want me to lay out the
thousands of $$ to make a video.... but only want to pay $15 for it, and I would
assume that you also want it free shipping too...

Just because somebody puts out a questionable (and it's not just me who
is finding a lack of professional quality) DVD, I get my chops smacked for
pointing out the lack of clothes?

Now, I wish I was going to Texas... 400 page flip reference? And I can
get in for $30? I pay almost that to print 400 pages of text when I'm working
on a book.... or was that a typo? and it's really only 40?
 
Apparently a CD is also available with a 30 minute version of this - would be great to play in your shop!

[video=10:09]

I didn't take time to watch the YouTube video yet, but I would hardly expect it to be a "complete" history when it's only 1/3 the length of the real thing. Especially when it's billed as "brief". Kinda like a trailer...
 
Bob, there are many of us that don't video tape our classes, because that
is our bread and butter. I got a ration of grief here because my DVD on
fabric wrapping wasn't priced at $9 the same as Walmart was selling
Dumb and Dumber.
Which one were you? :)

If there were enough framers in the world then selling dvds for $9 would be worthwhile. Of course if there were that many framers framing wouldn't be worthwhile ;)
 
yes Bob - - you are so right. Especially when they cost me just under $16
to make and $3 to print.

with just under 15,000 picture framers in the world.... I could be
bankrupt as this like of thinking in no time.
 
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