93 1/2 x 63 1/8 Pix

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BatesMotel

BatesMotel

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I'm reframing an old Orangina Picture for a customer whose old frame fell apart. It is rather large being 93 1/2 x 63 1/8 and the old frame was a wood that was only 1 inch thick. The original framer screwed strainer bars to the frame with no luck as the corners separated. It was also hung with wire which I didn't think helped matters any. It does have Plexiglass and I recommended replacing the frame with a wide metal frame, N99-421. I was going to put a frame strap on it. Should I do two or three? They are hanging it about 10 feet in the air so I found a picture hanging specialist and was planning to have it hung with a hangman Z Bar metal framing system. I ordered an 8 ft piece I can cut where I need to. Is it overkill to also do the Wall Buddies? Any way to support the corners? There is Acid Free Foamcore behind the art but being beyond over sized it is taped together. The tape is the plastic coated fabric framers tape. My experience has been even though they say it is "Acid Free" the pressure sensitive adhesive gives, already starting to happen, falls off and the residue remains. What kind of tape would you replace this with? We are fitting the piece at their home due to the size, they would have to rent a truck to transport it otherwise. Any input is appreciated on this behemoth.
 
That 8' length of "Z" bar will yield two 24" supports. That should be enough IF you ordered the heavy duty version. I do not think you need the corner Wallbuddies as well.

I am a supporter of using internal strainers. You did not describe how the corners were joined. It is my opinion that a 1" wood frame was WAY UNDERSIZED. I also would have installed plywood triangles in the corners of the strainer. With a frame that size, I wonder how many shops have work space large enough to actually assemble a frame that size PROPERLY.
 
I have used strainers in metal frames before, using a omni hanger you can attach to the frame and the strainer., if there is room for the strainer. I think you will be surprised how much flex and bowing your going to have with such a large piece. I would not do with out a strainer built as Jerry suggest, with couple of cross braces as well.
 
The original frame was underpinned. The strainer was screwed to the inside of the frame and corners were screwed to the strainer. The strainer was cracked and broke on the one side and everything was pulling out of the frame, it was a real mess. I recommended the metal frame for more support and durability. I didn't think the strainers were necessary and only added more weight to the over all piece. I was planning on adding 3 straps to the back to keep it from bowing. Any other thoughts out there?
 
3 straps on something this size is not enough, you need a strainer and proper hangers.
 
OK, Strainers wont fit, the frame holds the plexi, art and fome core and barley fits spring clips. Strainers would sit of the back and euro hangers sit to far down. Any other suggestions?
 
a strainer can be attached with sheet metal screws into the center channel of that frame( where the frame hardware is). Bevel the leading edge of that strainer and paint it black.
 
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