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    Default How thick is 2 ply matboard?

    How thick is 2 ply and 4 ply matboard? I have been unable to find out on Crescents website.


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    It depends ... see this thread.

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    Ya know...that is a good question. I mean..how thick -is- a "ply"?

    And is a ply a standard unit of measurement? I think not..I mean think about toilet paper! We don't go diggin' with one ply!

    And if 2 ply is typically the thinnest mat board we can get...why wouldn't it be one ply, and our standard 4 ply be 2 ply?

    /suspectsconspiracy

    (I apologize profusely to the OP for frankenthreading your fine question. I have no excuse other than an attempt at hilarity for the amusement of others...and I am hyped up on sugar today.)

    Edit: And Andrew's thread was more entertaining.
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    2ply = 30/1000 inch .030 inch

    4ply = 60/1000 inch .060 inch

    A sheet of my copy paper is 4/1000 .004 inch

    Hope that helps

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    I knwo that somne here will probably get mad but I want to ask anyway...

    Who cares what the actual thickness of a 2, 4, 8 ply mats is? What does that information really do for you, what do you use it for?

    When figuring out a frame for someone do you say that you can't use x frame since the thickness of the 8 ply mat will be .00124 too thick and will stick out the back of the frame?

    I knwo that many here are much more technical than me when it comes to framing but what do you do with information like how thick is a "ply"
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTWDSM View Post
    I know that some here will probably get mad but I want to ask anyway...

    Who cares what the actual thickness of a 2, 4, 8 ply mats is? What does that information really do for you, what do you use it for?

    When figuring out a frame for someone do you say that you can't use x frame since the thickness of the 8 ply mat will be .00124 too thick and will stick out the back of the frame?

    I know that many here are much more technical than me when it comes to framing but what do you do with information like how thick is a "ply"
    Those who use a CMC need to know the thickness so we can tell the machine how much mat we have to go through when we cut it. It's also useful, as you say, to know if the package is going to go past the back of the frame. Some people don't mind using offsets, some do.
    Besides that, the more you know about what you're doing/using, the more you can tell your clients. The more you tell your clients, the more they know you know, and the more they know you know, the more they'll trust you to know what you're doing with their valuable artwork!
    PS, I'm not mad, my dad always said that the only stupid question is the one you DON'T ask!
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    Seth,

    I have been in the business since 1991 and it has never come up, I have never had a customer ask or heard of a framer ask up until a few weeks ago here. I guess that i can show someone by holding a piece of matboard up if they really need to know.

    I am not tryiong to be a smart A$$ or insult people's intelligence here, I just don't get it. Do customers really care?
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    2 ply is half as thick as 4 ply. 4 ply is twice as thick as 2 ply.

    I use Berkshire which is the economy line from Crescent and it consists of all of the copanies that Crescent has purchased over time so every board is slightly different.
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    A very useful tool(s) for dealing with rabbet depth is an under-counter little stack of 2" x 4" samples of your various mats, seamed glass, your fillet package, and wrapped mat, etc.. When in doubt, stack your design in the corner sample - voila! - you'll know for sure whether it fits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by UzZx32QU View Post
    2ply = 30/1000 inch .030 inch

    4ply = 60/1000 inch .060 inch

    A sheet of my copy paper is 4/1000 .004 inch

    Hope that helps

    framer
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