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Pricing for object mounting

Discussion in 'Picture Framing Business Issues' started by smitten, Oct 10, 2016.

  1. smitten

    smitten CGF II, Certified Grumble Framer Level 2

    We are trying to set up a consistent method for pricing object mounting primarily for shadow boxes. Jerseys, hats, coins, medals, jewelry, just about anything you might imagine. Do you estimate time x shop labor? Do you have fixed charges depending on the type of object or method? Any input would help. Thankyou.
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  2. Rick Granick

    Rick Granick SPFG, Supreme Picture Framing God

    Do a time study when you mount items like this. Multiply time involved by your shop rate per hour, plus any materials required. Take good notes when you do this, and you will build a reference of prices.
    Then you can enter these into whatever POS system you may use. I would apply the prices you come up with when the item in question is "standard" and in good condition. If there are any complications, figure extra time.
    From experience, I would say if you are estimating a labor-intensive process, err on the side of charging extra time. Things often end up taking longer than we expect. If you end up coming in under budget, you will be a hero to your customer. On the other side of the equation, you can end up giving your valuable time and skill away for free.
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  3. CB Art & Framing

    CB Art & Framing SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    As a basic rule, I would double whatever time I or the designer estimates.
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  4. JWB9999999

    JWB9999999 SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Yes, we estimate the time based on our experience and the customer's demands for that particular piece. We have check boxes setup in Lifesaver for 30 minutes, 1 hour, 2 hours, and 4 hours of labor charges. We can click any combination of them for any job that is more than just normal framing. And we can always just add a charge to the workorder of any amount we wish.
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    GUMBY GCF SGF, Supreme Grumble Framer

    Instead of making multiple times I have a 1 min charge that can be set to multiples up to 999 on my Wizard POS that I use.
    Yes usually it is an experience call on how long an object will take to mount.
  6. Terry Scidmore CPF

    Terry Scidmore CPF MGF, Master Grumble Framer

    I have found over the years the best method for me is to use a basic labor charge for fitting a shadow box based on the size, and then a per item charge, broken into categories, based on my time studies and experience with an individual item. I view a shadow box as a large frame with lots of little "frames" within it.

    For example, if the shadow box has a needlework item in it that has to be mounted, I price in 1 - needlework mount, size, kind of mount - pins, laced, hand sewn, etc. and price per size. If it has two coins, I add in two objects mounted by a)mighty mounts, or b)can be glued, or c)mylar strips, or d)inset into a cut in mat, etc. with a price per item for the kind of mounting I have selected.

    I allready have the pricing for the items established from framing individual items - for example - the needlework uses about the same amount of labor to mount inside the shadowbox as it does for an individually framed needlework outside of the shadowbox.

    Pricing per item helps get a better handle on the time involved, I feel, then just guessing how many hours it will take.

    Pricing per item also lets the customer decide how many of the 52 items they really want to put into that shadow box. They can see a per item price charge and it helps them to decide what is really important.

    Hope this helps a little!
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