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Kirstie
February 7th, 2007, 04:27 PM
We just purchased the Canon camera which Mike so kindly sent the link for. We would use this for Wizard IF visualization. Now for my next problem: Our ceilings are 17' high , concrete, so a ceiling mount won't work. We do have track lights above the design tables and I would imagine I could power off one of these. Does anyone know of a mount which would work to hang the camera off a lighting track? Finally, I can't seem to locate any table mount kits like they had at the show in both the Wizard and Picture it First booths. Local camera stores have been useless. I do have a message in to Wizard. Any suggestions?
Thanks!
Kirstie
The Framer's Workshop, Berkeley
Mike Labbe @ GTP
February 7th, 2007, 04:54 PM
Question: How are the track lights attached to the ceiling?
Mike
Kirstie
February 7th, 2007, 05:08 PM
There are big screw eyes which were put into the concrete 30 years ago. Heavy duty wire hangs down from these. The tracks hang from the wires.
Here is a photo of the shop. (http://www.yelp.com/biz_photos/WW_fT_c7i68p-JAVaPF02w?select=Sy7G_bMH6iKTbEf-q-Z3dw)
Thanks for your thoughts on this.
Kirstie
The Framer's Workshop
Mike Labbe @ GTP
February 7th, 2007, 05:17 PM
What a nice looking place!
While I don't use the same system, the rules are pretty much the same regardless of the flavor/brand (LS FrameVue, Wiz IF, SS View, PIF, EST Pre-view, FS Visualize IT, Artteck, etc)
This is just one opinion, but I would probably have an electrician do it via conduit, and per the local building code. Mounting an electric box to the concrete should be no problem. The box can be sufficient in size to contain the electronics and allow a blank plate so you can attach a bracket. A new circuit could be used for power, or he/she may opt to tie into an existing one already up there.
Because of the distance, I suggest using a category 5e USB 1.1 extension device, and a 50' OR 100' cable. (See the Framevue camera recommendation thread for links and details)
Best regards,
Mike
Moderator
Kirstie
February 7th, 2007, 05:35 PM
What a nice looking place!
While I don't use the same system, the rules are pretty much the same regardless of the flavor/brand (LS FrameVue, Wiz IF, SS View, PIF, EST Pre-view, FS Visualize IT, Artteck, etc)
This is just one opinion, but I would probably have an electrician do it via conduit, and per the local building code. Mounting an electric box to the concrete should be no problem. The box can be sufficient in size to contain the electronics and allow a blank plate so you can attach a bracket. A new circuit could be used for power, or he/she may opt to tie into an existing one already up there.
Because of the distance, I suggest using a category 5e USB 1.1 extension device, and a 50' OR 100' cable. (See the Framevue camera recommendation thread for links and details)
Best regards,
Mike
Moderator
Thanks Mike, but as I understand it you are suggesting that the camera be mounted at the 17'ceiling height. That is way up in the rafters at our shop and I think lighting would be a problem from that height. Somehow I need to either hang the camera from the track lighting or from a table mounted stand. Pictureitfirst.com has a photo of a stand which I could attach to the table but when I went to their booth I was told they don't really sell it.
I also like to keep my design tables clear (without a bracket attached for a camera) because we design so much oversized art and sometimes a canvas literally has to hang over the end of a table as we measure.
The computer (just ordered a Dell Precision with a 20" screen) will sit on the side counter on the left wall of the store near the design area. I just ordered the USB extension cables you send the links for. This has all been very helpful.
Thanks
Kirstie
The Framer's Workshop, Berkeley (http://www.framersworkshop.com)
j Paul
February 7th, 2007, 05:50 PM
Kristie, Mike is suggesting that the junction box be mounted on the ceiling and then that the camera can be dropped on a rod/conduit from that junction box which would contain all the wiring.
JFeig
February 7th, 2007, 05:56 PM
or a beam hanging from the cables that hold the lights. With the camera the same height as the lights or slightly lower.
Dani
February 7th, 2007, 06:11 PM
I can't seem to locate any table mount kits like they had at the show in both the Wizard and Picture it First booths.
We have table mounts for the cameras available for $149.00. You can order one through Customer Support at 888/855-3335. We also have ceiling mounts for $45.00.
Kirstie
February 7th, 2007, 06:21 PM
We have table mounts for the cameras available for $149.00. You can order one through Customer Support at 888/855-3335. We also have ceiling mounts for $45.00.
Thanks Dani. Becky at Wizard is trying to get specs emailed to me on the table mount.
Kirstie
TGFU
February 9th, 2007, 10:01 AM
Kirstie, Did you get the table mount specs from Wizard yet? Would you be willing to share?
Jim
Kirstie
February 9th, 2007, 12:35 PM
Thhe table mount is 48" high off the table and attaches with a flat plate on top of the table and a C clamp underneath. The arm extends out 36". I really don't see 48" as high enough to capture a large piece of art, but I could be wrong. We are going to try mounting from the trac rails--one of my guys is handy enough to accomplish this, and we will power from the trac. Then we will have to use 2 extender cables and a Cat 5 network cable to eventually get to the computer. By that time, I hope it will work!
Kirstie
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