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RozR
November 15th, 2006, 05:04 PM
Customer has an existing piece of art that she wants to hang in her bathroom... any suggestions as to how to make it better for a bathroom enviroment.
I suspect that this may not be a huge problem since it is a brand new home and the bathroom is fairly large...
Thought I'd ask anyways!
Roz
Creative Chicks
November 15th, 2006, 06:01 PM
I can't ever really suggest hanging anything you expect to last in a bathroom, unless there aren't ever going to be any steamy showers. Paper products are just that, and nothing we can do is going to change that. Any moisture, or temperature change is going to have an effect.
Lori
Val
November 15th, 2006, 06:11 PM
I have several metal-framed and matted photos hanging in my tiny, steamy little bathroom that have been there for years. They're just fine. Starfish silicone-sealed to exposed matboard too, and one glued down with Elmer's. Everything's fine.
Just for insurance though, I have (with other people's bathroom art) backed it with a foil-type matboard, sealed the package edges with clear tape and sealed around the back, overlapping the metal back with Linco foiled framing tape. Haven't had anything come back with complaints yet.
I still caution the customer against steamy bathroom art. (heh-heh)
Seems like this has been discussed recently, have you checked the archives yet?
Cliff Wilson
November 15th, 2006, 06:56 PM
Try using Coroplast backing.
Nothing's foolproof and there is no guarantee. But, coroplast is a bit more of a barrier than most anything else you would use, and it isn't as agoraphobic (hmm nope), argro ... oh heck, it doesn't absorb water.
RoboFramer
November 15th, 2006, 07:25 PM
Hydroscopic.
Agorophobia is fear of open spaces -
SHUT THAT FREAKIN' DOOR! I think Mrs Robo has it as that is what she shouts if I leave it open (the bathroom door)
Hydrophobia is rabies - you've seen 'Old Yeller'?
Rick Granick
November 15th, 2006, 07:33 PM
Val- I've used the same technique you described, except substituting a second piece of glass for the backing instead of the foil matboard.
No problems yet.
:cool: Rick
Rick Bergeron - CPF
November 15th, 2006, 07:42 PM
We have 11 pieces of various sizes hanging in our bathroom which we have framed over the past 7 years. Half of which have double mats and fillets; the other half are just drymounted to matboard or foamcore and floated above another mat within the frame. There was nothing special done to any of them and there is no detectable difference between then and now.
We do tape the glass to the backing on every job that we do which helps protect against a multitude of evils.
MerpsMom
November 15th, 2006, 11:07 PM
I did two bird pix on Vidalon in the reverse, very detailed oils; anything which would have been affected by moisture would have surely shown something adverse in this very small, steamy space. I didn't frame them because it was twenty-five years ago so you know the framing was by today's standards, crude.
They have paper mats and reg glass. They're still as pristine as the first day (except for the nicotine-brown mat bevels.) Why are these still in good shape? I know some things warp: why not these?
BUDDY
November 15th, 2006, 11:38 PM
Roz do a search for Hugh Phibbs sealed frame packages. he taught it in one of the trade show classes . it uses aMarvel seal backing and is checked by submergeing it in water. so it ought to wotk. I think Jim Miller mentioned it. but if all else fails email Hugh( Preservator ) or maybe he is reading this right now.LOL
BUDDY
preservator
November 16th, 2006, 08:48 AM
As Buddy pointed out, there are various package designs described among
the preservation supplements in the articles index at the pictureframingmagazine.com website. It is possible to make a simple package,
much like those mentioned, in this thread, if the glass is taped to a Coroplast
backing board, using a flexible tape that can be burnished tight, like 3M 371.
Lining the edges of the tape, which will touch the sides of the mat, with mylar or similar material, will keep the mat clean and servicable, for the future.
Hugh
Dave
November 16th, 2006, 09:41 AM
Don't forget bumpons.
Dave Makielski
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