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Val
November 13th, 2006, 08:09 PM
A customer has brought in a 30x46 acrylic painting on paper, glued flat to a masonite-like board, edges exposed, and attached into a floater frame. The paper is bubbling in several places about the size of my hand and she wants it flattened out and glued back down.

She has had it since the '60's and it has just started doing this in the last couple of months. No major changes in its environment in 3 years, when they moved to this dry climate from southern California. It's loose in some places, glued tight in others, most of the bubbling is in the center, and the paper seems to have "stretched"out there.

I strongly advised a conservator, but she doesn't want to do this. It isn't monetarily valuable, but sentimentally so to her (she knew the artist), and I explained that that's just as important. She still doesn't want to go the conservator route. She wants me to "try to fix it". I also recommended possibly having it scanned and copied on canvas and re-framing that. She might be interested in that, if we can't fix the original.

It is only loose in spots, but tightly glued in others, so getting the entire thing off the board to re-mount isn't an option, the paper has torn where she tried to do it herself. Not sure what type glue was used, but it has yellowed (or was it that color originally? Or the acid in the wood turned it that color?).

Would this possibly be a type of glue that can be heat re-activated, as in putting it in a press on low heat, and being acrylic on paper could that damage it? Might it re-bubble?

I really don't want to do anything to it, outside of having a copy made and reframing that, but I told her I'd "do some research". So here I am, doing some research!

Framer Dave
November 13th, 2006, 09:13 PM
You've done your research. Now walk away. You're not a conservator and your customer has told you she doesn't want to pay for one.

Amy McCray
November 13th, 2006, 09:33 PM
Sounds like a perfect application for Vivian's "framers not being magicians" line. Boy, that's a good one, isn't it?

Good luck.

Amy

Rebecca
November 13th, 2006, 10:16 PM
I'm not sure you could interest a conservator in it either lol. Scan or nothing is my advice. Heat would likely damage the acrylic medium, and it is unlikely that it would reactivate the adhesive. Sounds like the adhesive is in the process of failing , so if she leaves it another 10 or so years the problem may resolve itself.

Rebecca

Paul N
November 13th, 2006, 10:23 PM
Certain things are not meant to be fixed by a framer. And that's a prime example.

If things go wrong when you "fix" it, things might take an ugly turn....you don't need this headache, Val.

Val
November 13th, 2006, 11:03 PM
I totally agree with everyone. I already knew what (not) to do, but I agreed to research here and get a concensus....I have.....and I'm not touchin' it!

I will call her tomorrow. Scan or watch it peel. This isn't a job for this framer. I'll be happy to re-frame the new one, though !

Thanks everyone.

I just love the Grumble!:smiley:

Jim Miller
November 14th, 2006, 02:03 PM
...I strongly advised a conservator, but she doesn't want to do this... She wants me to "try to fix it".

If your "fix" does not work, or does more harm, you may be in trouble. I wouldn't take the risk, Val.

This is what conservators are for. I suggest offering to do the footwork for her, and get a quote from a conservator who can do the job. That way, the uncertainty is gone, and it becomes a clear "yes or no" decision for her.

Val
November 14th, 2006, 02:18 PM
I just spoke with her. She has opted to go with the scan/copy-onto-canvas way. I called the local shop that does this and got a quote for her. She will pick it up today to take it in, and then I will stretch and reframe the "new" painting. She's actually very excited about it, and I'm off the hook and have a pending frame job.

She was also quite impressed at the resources I have (The Grumble!) to back me up, and grateful for doing the footwork, because she said she wouldn't have a clue where to start looking. Viola...we did it!

Sigh.....

Thanks everyone!!