View Full Version : Where in the world do you keep your Fillet corners?
Emibub
May 24th, 2003, 07:15 PM
I need to rethink my fillet corners. I actually have some carpeting behind my counter that I have them displayed on. The customers can't see them so it is up to me to think of them. When I worked at Michael's they had them mounted to matcorners and I hated, hated ,hated them that way. It just didn't flow and they never seemed to stay attached to the mats, or it could possibly have been the environment I was in. I can't really add them to my carpeted wall because honestly, I don't have the room.
I'm thinking of getting those clear plastic corners although with 300 or so fillets that could get expensive for my tight little nonexistent budget. Arquati has,or had this display rack that you stand them in. The drawback there is you only have one side to sell with and I think the corner gives a better example.
I just know I want to sell more of them, I think they are easy to sell but honestly the way I have them set up now even I forget to look at them. I sell more of the Bevel Accents because they are in the nice little rack on the counter where even the customer picks them up and sees them.
Any ideas or thoughts?
Ron Eggers
May 24th, 2003, 07:27 PM
I should be mowing my lawn. I don't want to, so I have some ideas instead.
The samples that are part of a moulding family - which include most of the L-J fillets, hang on the velcro right along with the rest of the mouldings. It's hard to miss them and they hold up a lot better than you'd expect. If one gets snapped, I put a little glue on it, put it in the vise and - the next time I need the vice - I remember the fillet and hang it back on the wall.
The rest of the fillets (I think I have about 400 of 'em) that don't really go with anything are in a flat drawer under my design counter. I seldom think to look at them, which is fine, since they don't go with anything.
Another idea might be to just keep them with your point driver.
PurplePerson
May 24th, 2003, 07:59 PM
We have makeshift drawers under our counter. They are organized according to type. You know "rustic" ones, "gold" ones, etc.
We have them out all of the time to show to customers and sell quite a few.
We do need to do a little modernizing to our drawers. Fillets fall off the back into the abyss.
MarkG1
May 24th, 2003, 08:05 PM
In my shop I have turn styles. I have allowed one side of one of them designated to fillets. The rest are in a drawer underneath the turn styles.
They are on pieces of matboard just wider than the fillet samples(9.25")and just shorter than the length of the drawer. There is a piece of velcro running down the center of the matboard like Neilson does ther sample boards. They are easy to handle this way.
Oh, I'm glad you brought this up, I am supposed to find the pattern for the inside piece of the turn styles for Framerguy. He is coming up next weekend to pick up the rest of his things and wanted me to give him that pattern.
Thanks K. I almost forgot :eek: .
Mark
[ 05-24-2003, 07:10 PM: Message edited by: Abandoned Framer ]
Emibub
May 24th, 2003, 08:08 PM
You are welcome Mark! Tell Tom Hi. By the way, your new name breaks my heart. You are not abandoned, it just seems so right now. Just think with Tom out of the way, you could possibly be the new "Framing King". Anyway, you are not abandoned, we are all here for you.
At least I am, I shouldn't speak for the rest of em..................
Sherry Lee
May 24th, 2003, 08:45 PM
We have some bare walls next to our moulding wall. I placed LONG vertical strips of velcro and have long rows of them. Customers spot them very easily. The downside (which always creates a chuckle) is how many customers think they are moulding samples and want to use "this skinny one" thinking they will be spending less. You know the type! But, I seize the moment and educate them on their use! Cachang!
Actually, this presentation is attractive and "frames" the moulding presentation nicely.
So many ideas, so many possibilitie..... smile.gif
Mike Labbe @ GTP
May 24th, 2003, 11:51 PM
We put ours on the wall over the computer and out of customer reach (velcro to wall). This is to keep customers from selecting them as moulding samples and within each reach of the design counter.
As far as metal frames, those are also outside of the customer area, but within site. We used to have them out in the showroom but since we moved them behind the counter, our metal sales are almost non existant. We're able to get most folks into wood.
Have any of you built spinnable moulding holders? We need room for ROMA. We're attempting to make a few of these over the long weekend. Wish us luck smile.gif
Mike
Barb Pelton
May 25th, 2003, 12:26 AM
When I rebuilt our counters, I carpeted the bases with additional carpet that matches the floor. I hang the fillets on the end of the counter (by end, I mean the side of the counter) they are handy, never get "lost" under the rabbet of a frame on the moulding wall, and the customers that are just "getting ideas" spot them and ask about them. they've done so well there, that I've just moved the Vicki Schoeber display to sit right on the floor underneath them. Now they are getting spotted as well--yeah! I guess I should mention that when approaching the design counter, the customers see it at an angle--the front and the side with the fillets. (Clear as mud.)
Less
May 25th, 2003, 10:12 AM
Mine hang around my back door. Occasionally I will place them in the custody of their big brothers, but they always seem to migrate to the door. ??? Must be trying to get away from Less.
Rick Bergeron - CPF
May 25th, 2003, 11:47 AM
We have a rolling cart, that never moves, with wire baskets. In the top basket is 11x16 sheets of 1/8" foamcore card where we can get 2 rows of fillets per card. Kathleen sorts fillets by color and it's easy to thumb through the files for the color/style needed. Need black fillets; pull out the black fillet card. Need shiny gold; pull shiny gold. When finished the F/C card goes back into drawer.
We do cut all our fillet samples down 2" per leg so that we can fit 2 rows on a card. We've never had a problem with the smaller samples. A picture would be self explanatory.
JFeig
May 25th, 2003, 01:38 PM
I take the fillet samples and attach them to a mat corner sample I make and build up the back as I would in a frame. The samples are then easier to handle and show a customer under a mat on the design table.
The fillet samples are stored in a cardboard tray made to fit the samples with the fillets pointing up. This way the samples can all be seen at the same time as they slant toward the back of the coantainer.
Emibub
May 26th, 2003, 02:56 PM
Great ideas here. I think Jerome may have hit the nail on the head. They need to be stored in an inverted fashion. That way they will be easier to view and since they will be resting on the matcorner they will be less likely to get beat up. So, now I have to come up with an inverted matrack.......thanks everybody.
Sherry Gray
May 27th, 2003, 07:32 AM
We re-use those nice pieces of white cardboard with strips of velcro already attached. Can't remember for sure, but I think Nurre/Nielsen (or even LJ) sends their samples attached to the cardboad. Previously they were on the moulding sample wall but I got tired of "I want that very tiny mouling" and my sample wall is a little smaller than in my previous location. So they are under the counter and very easy to use. And more convenient that I would have dreamed.
Cliff Wilson
May 27th, 2003, 12:10 PM
I have a setup like Jerome describes, except, my "tray" is a black foam core box that is completely open on one side. (A three sided box with a bottom?? :confused: I guess that's how to describe it.) The box sits on the end of my design counter so it's closed side is up against the computer station. The fillets are sitting face up right in front of the customer. Almost every customer asks "What are these??" works pretty good.
Cliff
Ron Eggers
May 27th, 2003, 02:43 PM
When someone pulls a fillet from the wall -thinking it's a real frame - and says they "like this one" I usually respond with something like, "Well, all right, but we're going to need his big brother over here to hold the whole thing together."
I've actually sold a few fillets that way. Not many, but a few.
JFeig
May 27th, 2003, 02:49 PM
My tray is about 2.5" deep and just wider than the samples to make life easy to remove. I keep the tray under the counter.
D_Derbonne
May 27th, 2003, 02:52 PM
My fillets are on the wall and sometimes customers think they are frames but that is easy enough to explain by showing them a framed sample.
I wouldn't want to attach them to a mat board since I often stack them under the lip of a frame rather than under a mat.
I definitely wouldn't sell as many if they were under the counter or inside a drawer.
Anyway, that's what works for me.
Emibub
May 27th, 2003, 02:58 PM
Cliff or Jerome, Do either of you have pictures of your displays? I want to make sure I am on the same page.
Cliff's comment about customers asking about them is exactly what I am going for. I don't like putting them on the wall for the reasons mentioned, they get lost under my counter or in a box. I want them on the counter, at least some of them, not all 400. Like Deb said I think I'll sell more if they are out where I can see them. I have just noticed with the handful of Bevel Accents(I hope they add more of those)they are on my counter and customers pick them up and ask about them, so I think fillets would be the same. There have been some good ideas though.
[ 05-27-2003, 01:59 PM: Message edited by: Royall Montgomery ]
JFeig
May 27th, 2003, 03:06 PM
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Ron Eggers
May 27th, 2003, 03:11 PM
Jerry, you didn't honestly think it would be that easy, did you?
It's entirely possible that YOU might be able to view that photo, but the rest of us can't see what's on your f: drive.
I can visualize it in my mind's eye, though.
You can easily make some attractive fillet trays from scrap moulding fitted with fomecore, fabric-covered board or whatever you think will look nice and hold up. No need to put Velcro in them unless you plan on standing the trays up or flipping them over.
I have four of these in my basement.
[ 05-27-2003, 02:15 PM: Message edited by: Ron Eggers ]
Cliff Wilson
May 27th, 2003, 03:30 PM
I'm not sure how "attractive" this is, but it seems to work. I keep thinking I'll do something nicer, but it hasn't gotten to the top of the list yet. ;)
From the door:
http://home.att.net/~framed/from_doorway_sm.JPG
Up closer:
http://home.att.net/~framed/fillets_sm.JPG
you can see that it is made to fit the space and I keep my print weights and eye piece in there also.
You will also note there is a Larson supplied sign on the end of the box facing the customer that says: "Fillets repeat the frame finish closer to the artwork drawing your eye inward toward the art.
Cliff
Emibub
May 27th, 2003, 03:34 PM
Thank you Cliff!!!! How quick was that? It is exactly what I want to do, and it doesn't even take up much space. It makes the fillets very visible and they won't get all beat up sitting in a matrack, which is why I hated that way before. Thanks Cliff!!!
Emibub
May 27th, 2003, 03:39 PM
Ron, Would it work if Jerome emailed the image to me? I'd like to see his too......................
Ron Eggers
May 27th, 2003, 05:06 PM
Of course that would work <strike>Kathy</strike> <strike>emibub</strike> Royall, if he sends it to you as a attachment.
Then YOU could post it.
Emibub
May 27th, 2003, 06:57 PM
Originally posted by Ron Eggers:
Of course that would work <strike>Kathy</strike> <strike>emibub</strike> Royall, if he sends it to you as a attachment.
Then YOU could post it. Ron, Thanks for indulging me in my "Sybil" type mood.
Jerome, If you email the picture to me I will gladly post it. As you can see I am a MPPNW and am totally qualified to do just that. I'd love to see it!
Less
May 27th, 2003, 07:40 PM
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