saw sugestions for small frames

[photodynamix]

I am a real newbie to the industry and have a client that would like to order 100-300 frames per month all the same moulding. The openning on the frames is between 1 to 4 inches. Does anyone have a idea as to what to use to cut these? Would a ssaw be better then a chopper? All the frames are wood. photodynamix@itol.com

[Jim Miller]

"Between 1 to 4 inches" isn't much of a description. Could you be more specific about the frame size & moulding size?

Obviously the frames are small, so the wood is probably less than 1" wide -- right? If so, then you could get good miters from any professional-grade cutting tools.

A chopper would be smaller, quieter, and make no sawdust -- just chips. On the other hand, a standard chopper would require an awful lot of pedal-stepping. If a chopper is your desire, then plan to get one with a pneumatic actuator. I think Morso, Pistorius, and others offer attachment kits to add that feature. Cost $1,000 ot $3,000.

A single miter saw would be your cheapest way out, but would require changing the position for each end of the rails -- more setup time. Cost: $600 to $1,000.

A double miter saw would definately be the most efficient way to do the job. Double miter saws are also the biggest of the frame cutting tools, and the most expensive, the noisiest, and the dustiest. You probably would want a dust collector to go with your saw. And you probably would need 220 volt, single phase electrical service of at least 20 amps. Some of the larger saws come with three phase motors, but I would avoid that. Cost: $3,000 to $10,000.

The price ranges given are my guesses, depending on whether you buy used or new, and whether you buy basic tools or load up with accessories.

After you get the cutting tools, you will need to join the rails. For that you need a V-nailer, of which many good brands are available. Cost: $1,000 to $3,000.

[Framerguy]

Welcome to the Grumble, photodynamix.

A 1" opening is getting pretty close to those fingertips no matter what method of cutting you use! If you are going to frame full time and want to check up on opinions about different saws/choppers, try doing a search on this forum for "saws" or "chopsaws" or "chopper". You will find quite a few opinions as this is a well worn subject on the Grumble.

Framerguy

[evergreen]

Just a thought. For the number of frames your customer is asking for, you might want to look into local companies that supply empty ready-mades. I can't come close to matching their prices when it comes to volume and I don't want to spend my time chopping a ton of cookie cutter frames. If you buy empty ready-mades, shipping is usually reasonable (since you supply the glass) and it's cheap.