"Any legitimate framer..."

[Marc Lzier]

So what makes a legit framer?

Biz licence?
Storefront?
Revenue level?
Income level?
Experience?
Quality?
Workmanship?
PPFA mambership?
CPF, GCF, FATG, FACTS, AFC or some other lettering?

[artist]

Desire.
Workmanship Quality.
Work ethics.
Business ethics.
Education.
Experience.
A store in N. hollywood!

[JRB]

No,No,No, you've got it all wrong.
A store in San Diego, Ocean Beach, to be exact.
John

[BUDDY]

Marc I'll give you my answers to your list and also those of Artist But I think the Key word in your query is LEGITAMATE.
Biz Liscences; I realize that different areas require different amounts but certainly you should have all those required by any other business like your own ,otherwise Are you LEGAL (Legitamate)?
Storefront; this varies in some areas but if you can operate your shop without violateing any Laws , Regulations or requierments then it doesn't matter.
Revenue/Income ;what you make and charge is up to you as long as you make a profit,You are a bussiness otherwise maybe you are a HOBBY (A very expensive one).
Membership in the PPFA ,CPF, or any other organization such as this Forum is purely a matter of choice but it is also a benefit that can give you many of the other articles on this list.

Desire ;is great but dosen't everyone starting in or staying in a bussiness have Desire?
Workmanship,Quality ; this will ultimately keep you in business but some very established businesses don't have it.
Workethics; this is almost a duplicate of the previous point.
Business ethics; YES but by this I hope you mean that you complie with all lisences, taxes and governmental regulations. If not I don't think ethics are adhered to.
Education;this depends on when and how you got it some have learned by OJT and where legitimate when they started.
Experience; see the above.
So Legimate should mean Legal and if you don't abide by all LAWS ,REGULATIONS,and REQUIREMENTS in your area then you are not Legitamate.
This ends my opinion on symantics .
BUDDY

[Scarfinger]

Kinda like describing "Legitimate politician" - can't be done.

Notice the small "p".

[This message has been edited by Scarfinger (edited December 14, 2000).]

[Marc Lzier]

That sounds like a challenge.

Any takers?

Westender25?

Anyone?

[ArtLady]

Marc,

You forgot Zorro

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Timberwoman
AL
I cut the mat, I pet the =^..^= cat.

[smily]

What is a legitimate framshop? Maybe we should ask Larson,since they are the ones who sets the standers for us all!

[This message has been edited by smily (edited December 14, 2000).]

[cfkane]

A legitimate frameshop is one in which the customer brings his or her art, decorations, memories, or keepsakes for framing. There, the legitimate framer spends time with them and their project, taking care to provide exactly what the customer desires and deserves in terms of design, preservation, quality, and longevity. The legitimate framer then informs the customer of the price for performing that work.

The customer pays the legitimate framer, then roots around the closet, attic, estate sale, or local artist with the idea of bringing more pieces to their legitimate framer.

I contend that it is the customer who defines the legitimacy of any frame shop by their satisfaction with the work, their return business, and their willingness to refer their friends and family to their preferred framer.

[ArtLady]

Do this mean Michael's and Joann Fabric's might not always be legitimate framers?

I guess in IMHO anyone who considers themselves a legitimate framer will defend the right to the teeth to call themselves one.

Legitimate is a sujective definiition. I'll bet their vendors think they are pretty legitimate when they get their checks; they're employees think they are when they get paid and their customers think they are when they pay them. Perhaps, that is the answer, they do a job and get paid and then pay someone else.

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Timberwoman
AL
I cut the mat, I pet the =^..^= cat.

[This message has been edited by ArtLady (edited December 15, 2000).]

[Bogframe]

Framer: a person who is relentlessly picky about his or her work, educates his customer, constantly strives to improve on perfection, has fingers criss-crossed with scars, and grumbles about what a framer really is!

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Seth J. Bogdanove, CPF
21 years framing and still loving it

[Jana]

Marc, nice cover on PFM's December issue. I think you're legit. Now, about the rest of us...