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[wshnbig]

Well, this is just great!! Out of work for at least 3-4 days. Went to the doctor about some swelling and pain in me left calf and knee. Turns out a main vein is blocked in three places. luckily it's not a deep vein and should respond to heat and medicine. If not, it's into the hospital for a while. Why do these things always happen at the worst possible time. Finally had a flurry of activity in the shop and have about 75 orders due next week. GRRRRRRRR!!!

(Sorry, guess I should be thankful they found it before it became critical. I couldn't do much with one leg, I guess. It's just painful and I'm a littl B****Y)

[Less]

It's better than being laid down!


I had to do something with the double post?

[ 07-23-2003, 10:25 AM: Message edited by: lessafinger ]

[Less]

First things first. Take care of yourself, so you can take care of your family and you're business.

[lyoncat]

wshnbig, I can identify totally. I've been laid up since sunday. I am sure I have a few irrate customers. I pulled out a couple ribs in my back, and can hardly sleep or get cumfy enough to just breathe. Saw chiro monday, and going again today. slowly some relief.

so take care, and take less's advice. You come first.

[ 07-23-2003, 02:07 PM: Message edited by: lyoncat ]

[Framerguy]

Lisa,

I won't even try to describe the image I had of you "pulling out" a couple ribs in your back!!

I have had poor luck with ribs throughout my life. I have been punched, kicked, kicked by a horse, I have fallen down onto a steel pipe with my ribs taking the full weight of my body and the other person who happened to be on top of me, they all hurt so bad and took so long to heal. There is nothing quite so thrilling like nursing a couple bruised ribs along for 5 months or so and, right when you are feeling like they are about healed up, you go into a coughing spasm and it all starts over again!!

Find yourself a nice hot tub, a bottle of Stoltzy, and a good book, and don't cough!!

Framerguy

[dns ynko]

Framerguy you need to see a witchdoctor...you got some bad mojo my man.
ddis

[gemsmom]

I am sorry to hear you are not well, Jonathan. It's a good thing you had that checked-sounds like it could have been serious.

I was laid up for a l-o-o-ong stretch last year. I was very happy I had good, dependable, help.

[framerak]

Ouch! Take care and get better! I'm sympathetic to being laid up. Car wreck 5 weeks ago left me with a broken ankle and torn ligaments and tendons. Trying to frame on crutches really sucks. I keep telling myself it's just an overdue vacation but it's not quite what I had in mind.

Anyway, be nice to yourself and get better soon!

Angela

[lindas3]

Hope your up and at'm really soon. If you were closer I'd lend you my daughter who has turned into a first rate framer. I'm jealous of the 75 jobs lined up though, no wait, I'm not. My shop couldn't hold 75 at one time. :eek:

[Mike Labbe @ GTP]

Get well soon!

That can be fairly serious... especially if one of those clots frees and hits your lungs. Did they give you coumadin or something to thin the blood?

Mike

[BUDDY]

wshnbig;Mike beat me to it. I just was treate for PE Pulminary Embolisms(Clots in the Lungs) and i was told that 90% of them come from DVT(Deep vein Trombosis,Clots in the legs) in the Legs.The real problem is the strain the PE can put on a weak heart.So take care.Mike's prognosis is just what the Doctor ordered.It takes 4-9 months to clear a colt that reahes your Lungs and I'll be on Cumadin for about 6 months.
Now you have me wondering if this is a Frame Shop Illness(DVT)from standing all day and not getting out to walk around?At any rate take careand get well soon.
Charles BUDDY Drago

[lyoncat]

Ouch Framerak!! Crutches and framing do not seem to go together. Make sure they are set at right height or you'll have sore armpits as well. Hope you heal well.

I was wondering why the clots are in the leg also. Thank God that is where they found them. How long do they think it will take to dissolve them WSHNBIG??

[wshnbig]

Thanks all for the sympathy and concern. Ultrasound showed there is no DVT. All 3 clots are in 1 vein fairly close to the surface, so heat and anti-inflamatories may help them dissolve themselves. I should see some improvement in a week or so, if not it's off to the hospital for IV Coumadin.
I asked if it may have been a result of being on my feet so much. It's more likely this aggravated the situation than caused it. It's more commonly the result of inactivity, such as people with desk jobs or who travel a lot. There can be many causes, though. Injuries, diet, poor circulation, etc. In my case, the latter two clots probably formed as a result of decreased blood flow caused by the first. Who knows when or why that one formed. In any case I think I'll be fine because they found it before it became critical.
We all go home with sore legs, joints, and feet. Some things to watch for, though. Constant aching, pain in joint movement or exertion, swelling, redness (like a light sunburn looks), hardness under the skin, and heat to the touch. It's almost like a pulled muscle, but you know it's not. If you experience any of this, go get it checked out!! This is what happened to the reporter who recently died in Afghanistan, (I dont recall his name now), and he was younger than me!!
Thanks again for all your concern. It's nice to know there are people out there who care.
And as for the late orders, I think I'll start a "loaner picture" program, like they do with auto repairs. Maybe that's what we could do with those unclaimed orders!! (too much free time :rolleyes: )

[Hobbes03]

Originally posted by wshnbig:
We all go home with sore legs, joints, and feet. Some things to watch for, though. Constant aching, pain in joint movement or exertion, swelling, redness (like a light sunburn looks), hardness under the skin, and heat to the touch. It's almost like a pulled muscle, but you know it's not. If you experience any of this, go get it checked out!! I used to work with a young woman, barely into her thirties, who had this same problem with her foot. It was let go too long, mis-diagnosed by her doctor, to the point where they finally had to remove part of her leg, just below the knee.

Glad your going to be ok wshnbig! Your right, it's nothing to be taken lightly.

-Mike.

[ 07-24-2003, 05:44 PM: Message edited by: Hobbes03 ]

[PurplePerson]

A few years ago, I got a bruise. I didn't think anything about it, but it got bigger and harder and I just ignored it. I didn't realize I was sleeping more and more until one day friend came in and I was unconscious.

She took me to the hospital and it was a bad staff infection. I almost died. So it is right to watch redness, lumps in bruises or anywhere they shouldn't be.

[BUDDY]

wshnbig I am very glad to hear your clots were in surface veins.However to answer the question about the DVT causes here is what the phamblet i got said:

* age over 40,and increaseswith age.
* (Ladies only)Birth Control pills
*Cancer (although having a clot does not necessarily mean that you have cancer)
*certain congenital heart defects
*Chronic respiratory failure
*Hormone replacement therapy(HRT)(often administered to postmenopausal women) but can be in the form of testoterone injections in men.
*Obesity
*prior DVT
*Prolonged imobility or paralysis
* stroke
* Surgery,including orthopedic,pelvic,and abdominal sugeries (which can trigger the formation of clots)
* trauma
*Varicose veins (Varicosities)
PS the reporter you where trying to rember was David Blum. It is highly likely that staying cramped up for long periods caused his blood to pool in the lower extremities and then break loose .It was suggested to me that even is we take long overseas flights we should get up and walk in the plane.
sorry i went on so long but i hope this helps all those who stand a lot, like us.
BUDDY

[BUDDY]

wshnbig;
I am very glad to hear your clots were in surface veins.However to answer the question about the DVT causes here is what the phamblet I got said:

* age over 40,and increases with age.
* (Ladies only)Birth Control pills
*Cancer (although having a clot does not necessarily mean that you have cancer)
*certain congenital heart defects
*Chronic respiratory failure
*Hormone replacement therapy(HRT)(often administered to postmenopausal women) but can be in the form of testoterone injections in men.
*Obesity
*prior DVT
*Prolonged imobility or paralysis
* stroke
* Surgery,including orthopedic,pelvic,and abdominal sugeries (which can trigger the formation of clots)
* trauma
*Varicose veins (Varicosities)

PS the reporter you where trying to rember was David Blum. It is highly likely that staying cramped up for long periods caused his blood to pool in the lower extremities and then break loose after his long trip to Baghdad .It was suggested to me that even if we take long overseas flights we should get up and walk in the plane.
Sorry I went on so long but I hope this helps all those who stand a lot, like us.Get out and play a round of golf or tennis or do what i did buy a tread mill.LOL
BUDDY

[Mike Labbe @ GTP]

Hope you feel better soon. Here's a nurse to take care of ya... http://www.getthepictureframing.com/icon/nurse.gif

I knew about the treatment because my father went through the same thing, but his DID enter his lungs and he nearly had to have the leg amputated because he held out so long from getting treatment. They ended up putting a "strainer" in his artery to catch the remaining clots. These can also cause a stroke if they hit the brain...

They accidentally prescribed him 400% higher than the maximum dosage for coumadin, which he took for 2-3 weeks. We got home from dinner one night and rescues and police were at the house waiting for us (the blood lab figured it out when they saw his blood). He was in the hospital nearly 5 months from that and almost died because his major organs shut down from the shock. (not to scare you, that was an extreme situation and he was in his early 50s at the time.. you seem about 22-24?)

Mike

[ 07-24-2003, 09:17 PM: Message edited by: Mike-L@GTP ]

[CharlesL]

Plavix is a lot more effective AND safer than Coumadin.

[wshnbig]

As I understand it, whether Plavix or Coumadin, initial treatment must be done in the hospital as initial dosages are too dangerous for home use. You should be monitored in case pieces do break off. When it's safe to leave the hospital, follow up medication at a lower dose can contnue at home for months. I really hope it doesn't come to that.

And thanks Mike for the generous estimate, but for the record, I'm 42.

[Mike Labbe @ GTP]

ok, I had the numbers backwards smile.gif