mounting newsprint

[crowsnest]

What is the best way to mount newprint? Will 3M spray mount on foam core board suffice?
Bryan

[Marc Lzier]

Suffice? Yes it will just fine. But it is not the most "conservation or preservation" treatment. It is a comprimise, and other options are available for longer term stability.

But, mount on black. Otherwise the newsprint will show thru. If you don not have black f/c, then mount on 921.

[crowsnest]

thanks for the black f/c tip...what other preservation option be used for a newspaper article?
Bryan

[Janet]

If your customer is willing to go back to the newspaper that originally printed the article, they can probably get the office staff to print the article out on regular paper since most newspapers are now done by computer. This print would last longer and not have the problems of fading as drastically or yellowing as typical newspapers have a tendency to do.

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How cheap do you want it to look??

[Frank]

I've had decent results just running it though a copier on better paper. If you use a color copier it even looks like newspaper. Some of the color copies will last a long time without major fading. Even if it doesn't you may still have the original if you treat it with a buffering agent and encapsulate it. Maybe! http://www.thegrumble.com/framer/ubbs/wink.gif

[Marc Lzier]

Look,
I'm not the best preservation fundi(yid). For newspaper I expect it to self-destruct. Usually it will get 77 or wet mount, and then in the vacuum press. Of course NOT mounting it at all is better than invasively mounting it down.
HOWEVER : If no mount you still need to hold it. What to do? What to do? What to do?

A/F Pressure tape hinges (bad but better than sticking down the whole thing)

Paper hinges and some sort of wheat or rice paste goo.(still sticking somthun to the article, but in theory, easier to reverse, and less likely to cause damage)

Clear pocket corners, or clear or paper edge mount strips (no stickum on the article, but no support for the center, and likely to sag.)

Mylar-D encapsulation(no stickum, lots-o-support, but now you have a glossy surface to contend with)

None of this addresses the fact that the paper will degrade on it's own. Even with any magic fix-it sprays the sucker will still age perfection. So, like the others said, make a 2 copies. Stick one down with Adhesive of Satan, or some other product that will mount it flat and permanent, and sandwich the other between two sheet of mat board with the original behind another board, and put it at the bottom of a drawer for all eternity or longer.

Frank's right on the color copier. It does look tops. Better yet, use a "Kodak Picture Maker" or a "Fuji Pictostat". They will make color copes on photo paper. Essentially real Photo-Copies while you wait.

I hope something in ther mighta helped.

[FramerDave]

Good lord. Just drymount the bloody thing on a black Bainridge ArtCare mat and use UV filtering glass.

[Jana]

If it's really precious, we advise the customer to go to a local paper conservator who neutralizes the acid. His prices are reasonable, and the results are good.

In the past, a long, long time ago, I soaked a newspaper article in a solution of milk of magnesia and club soda.(I forget the exact recipe). It did the trick, but got a little puckered. But somewhere I still have an unyellowed NYTimes review of Pavarotti's first televised Metropolitan Opera recital.

For the most part, now, we vacuum mount the untreated articles on black foam core.

What do you all think of those neutralizing sprays? Do they work? They seem very expensive.

[Marc Lzier]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FramerDave:
drymount on black ArtCare mat and use UV filtering glass. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Isn't that a bit like putting a ribbon on a turd just before you flush it?

[osgood]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Marc Lzier:
Isn't that a bit like putting a ribbon on a turd just before you flush it?

<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well said, indeed!

Marc,
May I please make use of this gem sometime in the future? (not in this forum)

[artist]

ribbon on a what--!!!?
If you do use spray on the newspaper be sure to use it very lightly and put it down before it soaks the paper and causes it to stretch. Good idea to practice on a few pieces, and see if you can get a backup news article, just in case. I have taken to putting the article on 921 with out worrying about alignment, then trim on the mat cutter showing 1/4 " of the black. Then you can place the article any where.

[crowsnest]

Thanks for all the advice. I think I will try a color photo copy if the customer agrees to the price. This is a great BBS that I just stumbled upon. Thanks again.
Bryan

[jkol]

I was taught to copy the original as previously suggested OR try to obtain a PMT (photo mechanical transfer) from the the newspaper to use in lieu of the original. This advice was passed on to me from a very succesful framer who was in the news business in a previous life.

[FramerDave]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Marc Lzier:
Isn't that a bit like putting a ribbon on a turd just before you flush it?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Lordy, Marc, well said as usual. And you kiss your mama with that mouth?
But seriously, YES the paper is gonna self destruct, NO it's not going to last forever, but why not at least do what we reasonably can to make it last as long as possible?
By the way, should I use a sheer silk or a grosgrain on that?

[Ainsley]

If you are going to spray mount it get it laminated first with a 3 mil matte mylar on both sides.
Permanent...yes. Do not use this on anything valuable. The paper will still discolor but more slowly. It will not turn to powder. Then spray both back and black foamcore and mount it.
You don't even need glass.

[Marc Lzier]

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Expoused by FramerDave:
And you kiss your mama with that mouth?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
I did learn it somewhere?

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Stated by FramerDave:
But seriously, YES the paper is gonna self destruct, NO it's not going to last forever, but why not at least do what we reasonably can to make it last as long as possible? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Dry-mounting is by far the hardest to reverse. As for the advertised and promoted, but not empirically substantiated protection from Artcare I won't even get into that. The question from Bryan @/of 'crowsnest' was "what other preservation option be used for a newspaper article?"

For preservation concerns, Drymount is NOT an option.

<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR> Queried by FramerDave:
By the way, should I use a sheer silk or a grosgrain on that?
<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Moiré; with a bow.

[FramerDave]

As usual, Marc, I bow to your superior knowledge and wit.