Are there Arched Frames available?

[RozR]

Had a customer inquire as to having something religious framed, and he asked if I could do an arched frame. (I can't) But perhaps there is a manufacturer? Any leads helpful!

Thanks,

Roz

[Ron Eggers]

I made one for a customer and one for a wall model. Then I gave the wall model to a silent auction (so nobody would see it and ask me to make another one.

It was the low point of an inglorious framing career.

[RozR]

So, Ron, what you are saying is "not"!?! But you did two!! How would you do that, anyways - not that I have the patience to work with wood in that way. Sounds tedious.

No commercial lines available?

Thanks for your response.... It wasn't "that" short either!! :D ;)
Roz

[gemsmom]

I can't help much, because I am at home. I was looking at an In-Line Ovals catalog today at the shop and they had some.

[Ron Eggers]

Sorry, Roz. How obtuse of me.

The arch frames I made had three long rails and about 40 itty bitty short ones at the top. They were incredibly tedious.

If I ever make another one, I'll charge about $2600, plus materials.

How many do you need?

I'm usually able to talk my customer into an arch mat and a rectangular frame. The project I did for the customer was a mirror, and she chouldn't be talked into a mat.

[John Gornall]

I have had Inline Ovals custom make them in sizes I need, in fact I ordered a custom cathedral frame today - but you can't be in a hurry - they take about a month. I am cutting a template on my CMC and sending it to them to get the shape just right.

[Brian Lehr]

American Choice should be able to do anything you can think of if you have the time. They manufacture in Europe so it takes a while but it's worth it. Sorry I don't have their #.
Or if you know someone with a jigsaw, a spandrel frame would be possible. I made one for an arched top stone litho once. The gilding I did was quite involved however, for these religious items it seems worth it.

Brian.

[ 07-18-2003, 03:07 AM: Message edited by: Brian Lehr ]

[Susan May]

John, you beat me to it!!! I would HIGHLY recomend InLine Ovals! They are worth the wait.

[Whynot]

Dear Mr. Brian Lehr,

Thank you so much for your good referrals.

I feel compelled to underline that
framers turn to American Choice only when hard to get real things of excellent quality are needed and Munn's price sounds unbearably high.
In fact, for the reason that you've just stated, American Choice is the most competitive American supplier of high end, hand made, hand finished frames in any shapes and forms.

Honestly, American Choice and In-Line Ovals do not offer similar products and services and they don't overlap each other in the market.

Sincerely,

Cornel Rosca

[ 07-18-2003, 09:50 PM: Message edited by: American Choice ]

[RozR]

What great response!! Thank you. In-line ovals - they have wonderful products and I failed to think of them!!

Thanks all.

Roz

[Martycip]

I can offer our services on a limited basis for arched tabernacle frames. Examples can be found in the framing section of our web site: www.martyandpats.com (http://www.martyandpats.com)
We could not do a large quantity at once but if you need one accasionally, would be glad to help.
Marty Cipolla
Marty & Pat's Frame Shoppe
Fort Worth, TX

[Whynot]

Marty,

I just visited your site. It's beautiful and it puts a different light onto custom made frames' world. Congratulations!

How long does it take to bring up one of those tabernacles of yours?

Cornel

PS: I bet you did not miss one single geometry class in your life, right? ;)

[ 07-19-2003, 09:30 PM: Message edited by: American Choice ]

[Martycip]

Thanks! I'm glad you liked them. It takes about 2 weeks if I work on them a couple hours a day. Geometry was my favorite math class. I really enjoy the challange of making these frames but it can get scary when a customer brings in something that is hundreds of years old. Our local congresswoman just
brought in an original russian icon that she wants me to come up with a design for. Very intimidating!
Thanks for the encouragement.

[ 07-20-2003, 11:47 AM: Message edited by: Martycip ]

[Whynot]

Marty,

That local congresswoman evidently came to you for all the good reasons. She oughtta feel intimidated, not you ;)

Keep on bringing in fresh air because, in my opinion, you have much to say as a designer.

I'd also like to see you posting some of your original designs in the appropriate section of this forum. We'll all benrfit from that, current and future grumblers alike.
In case you don't know how is that done, Ron is perfectly able and willing to help you out.

[Martycip]

Thanks again for the kind words. I would like to post some pictures if someone would give me instructions.

[Ron Eggers]

Marty, there are two ways to get photos onto The Grumble:

</font> The easy way - Send them to me as email attachments.</font> The not-quite-as-easy way - Click on this link: http://thegrumble.com/cgibin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=4;t=000352</font>

[Ron Eggers]

Anyone who hasn't take a tour through Marty and Pat's website should do that RIGHT NOW!

It's a very classy site and shows off some breath-taking framing and matting.

I can see that Jo Burns isn't the only reason to visit this shop sometime.

(But you'd be reason enough, Jo. ;) )

[jframe]

When you visit the web site, send them an email and you'll get a special treat! :cool: At least you will like it, Ron.

[Framerguy]

Ron and Cornel are right! Their site is knockout and the quality of workmanship in their frames appears to be excellant.

I am a pretty good woodworker but the one and only cathedral frame I attempted for a display in my old gallery never made it to the front room! Part of the difficulty in building these complex frames is trying to do it with completely finished moulding. I think they have solved that problem by filling the minor voids on each miter and doing their own finishing. However they are doing it, the frames are a work of art in themselves.

Marty and Pat, you should be proud of your products. I truly enjoyed viewing them and I hope you learn to post photos here on the Grumble so we can see some of your newest creations when they are available.

Framerguy

[Whynot]

Isn't that truly great about The Grumble?
Rozmataz was searching for a pebble and we all descovered a gem staying next to us! ;)

[Ron Eggers]

Well put, Cornel.

I found Marty and Pat's site to be a little humbling. Those of us who've been in this business long enough to start thinking we've done it all (and for some, that only takes a few years) need to see work like that to help keep things in perspective.

I'm going to have to make a point to start visiting more Grumblers' websites since it doesn't look like my Great Grumble World Tour is going to happen in the next year-or-two.

[RozR]

American Choice is right - What a gem to be found!!

Marty - your work is incredible!! Awesome to be exact!

I don't know what level my customer will rise to for this but I will show him what I saw on your site and I will contact you for further information.

Thanks!!

Roz

[Martycip]

Thank you everyone for the encouragement. I'm a little overwhelmed by the response. To do these kinds of frames, you need an accurate multi-angle saw and Barton's multi-angle framing guide and vise. Oh, and a lot of patience. Trial and error (sometimes with emphasis on the error) is the key. Thanks again.

[AWG]

Feeling kind of humbled. WOW!

[Ron Eggers]

Here are some of Marty's frames that aren't on the web site.

Now that didn't take too long, did it?

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[RozR]

WOW! Those are absolutely breathtaking!! Roz

[Martycip]

My thanks to Ron for posting the pics. I never could have done it myself.

[Ron Eggers]

Happy to do it, Marty, but don't kid yourself. In the time it took me to get around to it, you could have learned. :D