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DTWDSM
March 24th, 2003, 09:24 AM
Ok, I saw the photos from TC's meeting in MI and am curious, What is the Attach-EZ- system and is anyone using this already?

It looks to be a replacement for sewing down items? Could it be a time saver? Anyone?

John Ranes II, CPF, GCF
March 24th, 2003, 10:57 AM
DTWDSM,

Check out this site for futher information....

Attach-EZ (http://www.attachez.com./)

Also, the discussion can be found on this previous Grumble Thread (http://thegrumble.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004542)


John

[ 03-24-2003, 09:59 AM: Message edited by: John Ranes II, CPF, GCF ]

lise
March 24th, 2003, 11:07 AM
What I would like to know is the price and whether they have a satisfaction guarantee policy. The website does not offer any contact info nor how I can purchase this tool.
It almost sounds too good to be true, kinda the same feeling I get when seeing an infomercial.

B. Newman
March 24th, 2003, 11:16 AM
When you download the printable order form, all the pricing information is on it.

Betty

Ron Eggers
March 24th, 2003, 12:16 PM
I intend to check it out when I go to the TC open house on April 5-6. I am a notorious gadget freak, but I also hate to waste money. Those seemingly contradictory traits should make me a good guinea pig. I will definately report my opinions here.

JFeig
March 24th, 2003, 04:10 PM
I picked one up at the Troy show.

They are made by Dennison. The micro unit is not compatable with the tagging guns for retail pricing guns. The needles are thinner.

The plastic fastners have been thinned to give them a lower tensil strength so as not to damage most fabrics.

I will be using it for non-conservation items
such as hockey jerseys. I feel funny about using it on really old christening dresses etc.

MatFramer
March 25th, 2003, 12:53 AM
I found it to be interesting. I was at the Troy show on Saturday. I was ready to buy, but decided to wait to see what the jury said. It certainly looked to be a time saver, that is for sure.

EllenAtHowards
March 25th, 2003, 08:03 AM
You know... we are so fussy about even the quality of needles that we use to couch items into place... Like, ball-point needles are better than regular ones because they will tend to push between threads as opposed to splitting them. This new gadget (which admittedly I haven't seen yet) cannot possibly be so fine that it could subsitute for a needle. So I will continue to stitch down the 'old-fashioned' way. And you know how I feel about whether something should get conservation-type framing...

katman
March 25th, 2003, 09:31 AM
Jerome, because you bought it, and others who saw this item, is it really worth the 100 or so bucks premium over other tagging guns? I guess I could go for it if the instruction book is a fantastic training tool, and the size of the tags has been downsized optimally for framing. I've got three jerseys comming in a couple of weeks so I'm tempted to buy before I start poking holes in my fingers. Also have a few boxes to do now that will feature high school athletic letters.

John Richards
March 25th, 2003, 11:29 AM
The needles are much thinner. John Ranes bought one also. We sold out at the show. I can't wait to see's Ron's response in two weeks. The Attach-Ez booth was crowded the entire weekend. The amount of time that can be saved using this device is outstanding.

JFeig
March 25th, 2003, 12:38 PM
Yes, the fastners have been downsized. 1/4" and 1/2". My previous response also stated that the thickness of the fastner has been sonsiderably reduced to make the tensil strength less. Thus making a testile less prone to be ripped.

Barb Pelton
March 25th, 2003, 02:14 PM
And how about the fasteners? Would they stretch over time under the weight of a jersey? Does UV light break them down? Inquiring minds want to know...

John Richards
March 25th, 2003, 03:00 PM
Barb: The fasteners are virgin nylon and I don't believe they will stretch over time. UV exposure I'm not sure of but I do know I've got several pairs of stocks that these little buggers have been in for years and don't seem to go away. Perhaps some of our G'ers who are chemists can respond to nylon and UV esposure.

Merlin Framers
March 25th, 2003, 03:25 PM
Even across the pond we use a tagging gun with 1/4 inch tags for holding sports jerseys in place. We place 4 ply mat inside the jersey and tag through this with no problem at all. Where a fold ie a sleeve, takes place then, with a little bit of careful moving we slide the tag gun up the inside of the sleeve and tag down, so that no 'T's' are showing on the face of the garment. I know its only a short time span, but jerseys done some 4 years ago and on display have shown no signs of any movement.
Any length of tag that is spare is pulled taut and taped on the back of the mount.

Rebecca
March 26th, 2003, 12:54 AM
I'm with Ellen here. It is hard to caution about something I haven't seen or used, but I would be very careful about what this is used on. Fragile/ historic fabrics could be damaged very easily. I would hate to see the paper side of framing move towards non-invasive, c/p methods and the textile side move towards time saving methods that are potentially hazardous. Tension, placement, and quality control on each stitch is everything when sewing.

Rebecca

Pat Kotnour
March 26th, 2003, 09:53 AM
Hi everyone,
I have tried to e-mail all of you who have had questions and hope that I have answered them. My e-mail is getting very busy and it may be a day or two before I can get back to you, but please don't hesitate to call or e-mail me. The next paragraph is an e-mail I sent to Rebecca answering her questions. Oh, and none of the fasteners show from the front side of the artwork. They are all hidden or so small that you can't see them. If they yellow a bit over time (which I don't think they will), it dosn't matter. If you follow the directions you won't be able to see any of the fasteners.

Hi Rebecca,
You are right, there are some things that you shouldn't use Attach-EZ on. What I do when the artwork is delicate or valuable is use the hand-tool to make the holes in the rag boards first. It is much faster because you can do it from the front with the piece laid out. By lifting up the fabric and making your holes under the artwork you can get a much better visual of where you want to place your punctures. Then it is only a matter of sewing the piece into place. The needles on the Attach-EZ system are very delicate and very sharp. They don't do any more damage than the conventional needles and work on most things that need to be mounted. You won't believe how easy it is to do doilies. The fasteners are so small that you can't see them from the front side of the doily. You can even change the color of the fasteners. I hope this will clear up some of your doubts. Happy framing. Pat K