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Mr. T
September 18th, 2005, 10:59 AM
I have a 68" x 30" Pupyrus Print that a customer wishes to frame. Can anyone advise me how to mount this type of print? Does it need glass?

HannaFate
September 18th, 2005, 12:01 PM
Treat it like any other piece of paper. (yes, glass) The only difference is that the fibers are a little more loosely bound to each other, so tape hinges may pull off the back. Use rice paper, mulberry paper, or some other wet mount hinges.

That size, attach to the backing, not to the mat. Add some small support strips along the bottom and sides.

The most annoying thing about papyrus is that customers like to show the rough edges. They are easier to mount and get to lay flat if you can mat over the edges. Personally, I think they look better that way, too.

FramingFool
September 18th, 2005, 01:13 PM
Papyrus.

deaconsbench
September 18th, 2005, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by FramingFool:
Papyrus. Yea, I thought 'puppy paper' was an odd thing to frame!
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Paul N
September 18th, 2005, 05:47 PM
I was told by another framer that they spray mount Papyrus, to keep it flat and show the edges,

What do others think about this procedure??

Julie-Tulie
September 18th, 2005, 06:50 PM
I have vacumounted/top mounted them with much success using buffermount and cutting it about 1/4 smaller than the origional size on whatever color mat you choose to top mount on. Then surround it with whatever other colors you choose for your mats. It gives you those edges that are rough and tattered plus it is stable. Just make sure that your buffermount is not showing anywhere...those papyrus are very "unsquare". Is that a word?

Jim Miller
September 19th, 2005, 11:49 AM
Hanna's right -- use glazing and a mat, and hinge with starch paste such as Nori.

The unfinished edges make a bold visual effect, so we might float-mount to a slightly-undersized backer. A raised window mat can provide plenty of space for the heavy surface texture.

I do not suggest spray mounting anything. Sprays dry out and fail in a short time. Spray mounting is considered permanent because the adhesive migrates into the fibers before it dries out (and stays there), and nearly all sprays are toxic.

Because it is a pressure-sensitive adhesive, spray requires burnishing or pressure to activate the bond, which would crush & flatten the papyrus.

Mr. T
September 19th, 2005, 12:39 PM
Sorry for my spelling of the word "Papyrus" but you get the idea!

The customer wants to hang it in a frame without glass because of the size. (Over his bed). I am concerned because of the size and weight that glass would add. He is not looking for mat either.

deaconsbench
September 19th, 2005, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by Mr. T:
Sorry for my spelling of the word "Papyrus" but you get the idea!
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Jim Miller
September 19th, 2005, 01:54 PM
Originally posted by Mr. T:
...The customer wants to hang it in a frame without glass because of the size. (Over his bed). I am concerned because of the size and weight that glass would add. He is not looking for mat either. How about acrylic instead? Half the weight, 20 times the impact resistance.

I would not want to frame papyrus without glazing, because the surface would collect dust and would be very difficult to clean without damaging the art. Imagine the maid changing the bed and snagging the corner of a flapping sheet on the texture of the unprotected art.
:eek: Oh, horrors.

Paul S
September 19th, 2005, 03:43 PM
This could also be laminated to masonite, then framed

Mecianne
October 4th, 2005, 01:22 PM
Just wondering what you came up with, MR. T.??? Just in this morning: five...yes FIVE of these things and a watercolor... Never framed papyrus before, so I am searching the G for ideas.

Is it safe to put acrylic directly onto the papyrus? I am using CC glass, and am thinking of glass, acrylic, papyrus, matboard, backing board. I have found several folks suggested this. Hmmmm....?

preservator
October 4th, 2005, 02:32 PM
Jim's ideas should be listened to. Though paper and similar materials should not touch the glazing, acrylic is less likely than glass to experience condensation and in addition to its weight and safety attributes, it is the clear choice, here.


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Kit
October 4th, 2005, 09:04 PM
Welcome to the Grumble, Mr. T

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Captain English
October 4th, 2005, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by Mr. T:
Sorry for my spelling of the word "Papyrus" but you get the idea!
Ahem.

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fee
February 28th, 2009, 02:18 PM
Hey, sorry in advance for resurrecting such an old thread with my first post, but I think I will find my answer here.

I am also looking to frame a few (REAL) papyrus paintings. However, I do not want matting to cover the edges of the sheet nor behind it. Is this possible without damaging the painting?

Thanks in advance!

prospero
February 28th, 2009, 07:22 PM
I have mounted lots of papyruses (papyri ?) by using drymount film on a dark background. Usually black or dark green. I prefer film to tissue as does away with tacking. Premount a piece of about 1/2" smaller than the papyrus all round leaving the release paper on one side, then peel it off when cooked and smooth on the papyrus. back in press for a quick squeeze. The only minor niggle is that the film is slightly glossy and can show though the weave in places. Not a great prob as papyrus has a subtle gloss to it. It can then have a mat or be framed just as is with spacers under the rabbet.

I think the guy is being just a tiny bit paranoid about the 'glass over the bed' scenario. If pictures are strung and hung properly they don't fall of the wall. If he is really worried, tell him to move the bed away from the wall or hang the papyrus somewhere else. If he doesn't want it glazed he may as well blu-tak it directly to the wall.:nuts:

Jeff Rodier
March 1st, 2009, 10:06 PM
Hey, sorry in advance for resurrecting such an old thread with my first post, but I think I will find my answer here.

I am also looking to frame a few (REAL) papyrus paintings. However, I do not want matting to cover the edges of the sheet nor behind it. Is this possible without damaging the painting?

Thanks in advance!

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