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katman
May 24th, 2002, 08:44 PM
Okay, I've been thinking about buying a shrinkwrap unit for a couple of months to (1)package "precut" mats we can do on our CMC and (2)package the in-house "stock" photos (with mats)we do of sailing, Washington scenes and other stuff. These go in plastic bags now. I don't like the presentation. Got a couple of local "artists" (you are a painter until the world decides you are an artist) who want about 20 pieces/month shrinkwraped, and a local gallery has asked if I would wrap prints for them--about 20-30/month, various sizes. I've been sitting on the fence about hiring another trainee, this could be the the filler work. I have no idea how much time and aggravation is involved in doing a good shrinkwrapping job. Talking about using 1/8 foam backing. I can priced my foam, but can anyone give me an idea on how difficult it is to do a nice wrap on, say, a 24x36 piece. Would be interested in time involved and cost in United Inches or other method for film. Any comment on pitfalls would be appreciated.

Ron Eggers
May 24th, 2002, 10:00 PM
Katman,

In my opinion, shrink wrapping is a very large pain in the butt. I have a shrink wrapper mainly to wrap finished orders, but I do some wrapping for artists. I just kept raising the prices on it until I didn't hate it so much. When I get to the shop tomorrow, I'll e-mail you some samples of what I charge.

I suspect anyone who's doing much quantity is using a shrink wrap heat tunnel and not a heat gun. There's a post in the archives about using a Vacuseal press (without the vacuum turned on) to shrink several pieces at once, but I haven't had much success with this.

Ruth
May 24th, 2002, 11:46 PM
I'll second Ron's post. There are few things I hate more than shrink wrapping. People may cringe at the price I quote, but it's still not enough to cover the aggravation.

Of course around here they cringe at any price... "it's just plastic wrap!"

chaz33
May 25th, 2002, 12:34 AM
Anyone who has done shrink wrapping knows this, it's unpleasant,time consuming,not worth what you can charge! It's basicly a convienece for the customers. Sorry for the negativity but,bad subject to me!

Chaz

Winnie Bates
May 25th, 2002, 08:16 AM
To all frustrated and unhappy shrink wrappers:

I am sorry to read (although it is not the first time) that so many have such a strong aversion to shrink wrapping - when, in fact, it can be a simple and profitable service to add to your shop. It is a service that can bring you more full framing business.

The usual source of frustration is in getting bad seals or being near the end of the job and burning a hole. This is often a factor of the film that you are using. "All shrink film is not created equal!"

Katman, with advice for you:
-For pieces as big as 24x36 you may want to use a slightly thicker backing to avoid warping on such a large piece.
-For your cost on the film, take the square inches of your piece and add 10% - so your 24x36
becomes approx. 950 sq in Multiply this by the following factors (this is for our Clearmount film) 100 gauge $ .00065 or 60 gauge $ .00039

So cost of film on this project for:
100 gauge = 950 x .00065 = $ .62
60 gauge = 950 x .00039 = $ .37

-Time involved, again using the right film, for
shrinking should be less than a minute - so to cover with a new person say 2 minutes tops!!

From my experience, the volume that you have mentioned does not indicate an L-sealer or tunnel.
I have many customers that use 2000'+ a month using the manual sealing equipment.

Good Luck!

Ron Eggers
May 25th, 2002, 09:25 AM
In fairness to katman - and especially to Winnie and Clearmount - I should point out that a lot of my own shrink-wrapping problems involve wrapping customers' items for display in the antique malls. These are frequently rolled tighter than a steel spring and are falling apart or already in multiple pieces. In addition, a common request is to shrink wrap them to allow viewing from both sides! (I'm still waiting for my case of clear fomecore board.) Irregular sizes also result in a waste factor of much greater than 10% for the film.

Wrappng quantities of matted prints from your own shop would undoubtedly be much more efficient. In addition, shrink wrapping framed items for customer pick-up makes a very nice presentation.

Katman, if you are preparing matted pieces for sale in common sizes, I <U>would</U> take a look at the resealable print bags as a possible alternative. United's number for these is #5439. And I'm afraid a trainee who spends any amount of time doing shrink wrapping in your shop might quickly decide on a different line of work. I can believe it's possible to do it profitably, but it's mind-numbing work at best.

katman
May 28th, 2002, 08:46 AM
Thanks for all the feedback. Sounds like this may not be too promising as "filler" work for a trainee.