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lise
July 26th, 2002, 03:14 PM
Do you feel that FACTS is something that individual framers should contribute financially to support?

B. Newman
July 26th, 2002, 03:31 PM
Needs to be on top.

Betty

jframe
July 26th, 2002, 06:16 PM
Framers, consumers, suppliers, artists, conservators and anyone else with ties to picture framing should contribute. It is an enormous step forward in the education of the industry.

nona powers
July 28th, 2002, 12:08 PM
I'm so surprised to see anyone vote no. I cannot figure out why a framer would say no when it adds so much to the profession they are in. FACTS is for the benefit of the framer. It can and does add a great deal of information, ends confusion, sets standards that are written for the framer, not to meet a conservators needs. I am amazed anyone would vote no. I know many people never want to contribute to anything, but this is vital for the health of the industry. If it had been used as well as it could have been as soon as it was developed, this industry would be a different place today. I've been around forever, and so many of the problems I've seen, such as the "acid-free" mess, would not have happened with FACTS in place and supported by framers.

There have been other issues brought up which cloud the basic question, but the real question is, do you think FACTS helps the industry or do you not? Does it have relevance and therefore value or not? Is there anything to take its place that is factual? No, there is not. If every framer supported FACTS and used it, your job as a framer would be easier. That is the absolute truth. I can't figure out voting against that.

Nona Powers, CPF, GCF
www.nonapowers.com (http://www.nonapowers.com)

Framerguy
July 28th, 2002, 07:14 PM
Nona,

A thought just occurred to me. (Scared me witless when it popped into my head!!)

I wonder if some of the framers who are aware of FACTS or have been following the progress reports here on the G and HH are thinking to themselves, "Heck, they have already developed enough information to satisfy my needs and did it for nothing! Why should I send in $30 when I got all this (Existing FACTS standards) for nothin'."

Could you defend against this type of mindset?

What is in the hopper for FACTS after they get into gear and start moving ahead?

Maybe there are bigger and better things on the horizon that those $30 checks will get started for us.

Framerguy

Framerguy

Whynot
August 2nd, 2002, 06:57 AM
Nona,
I voted NO, but that does not mean FACTS' objectives are wrong and not deserving to be promoted by any means. My NO simply answered the question. I don't believe that the professional standards of the framing industry must be conditioned by FACTS ability to directly collect from and disseminate its standards back to individual framers. In my view, that's way too ambitious of a task for FACTS.
In my opinion this is something that much larger institutions of the industry must care and provide for. FACT may be the appropriate technical body for laying down those standards, but I doubt that a team of dispersed excellent technicians may happen to be excellent found raisers and communicators too. Unless backed and openly recognized by major land marks of the industry, FACTS is not likely to be fully successful because much more than those 30 K, it needs at least 1,000 framers constituency just to enter the field. Am I wrong?

nona powers
August 3rd, 2002, 01:06 PM
At the Chicago meeting, lots of plans were made to disseminate FACTS to framers better than it had been before. One comment was made over and over, if the framers don't care, if there are not enough framers who care, there will not be even 1,000 framers who will care.... on and on. I think there are framers who care and this campaign is to prove it.

The question; to get support for FACTS from the rest of the industry, do framers care? Why put the money, energy and time into making FACTS the tool it could be if framers basically don't care. You can trust me in this, if framers show they care, the rest of the industry will care. Framers have a great deal of power in this industry but are so unconnected and individual, they use none of it. In this one thing we need to be a connected body of opinion. YES, we as framers do want what FACTS is and what it can do.

Nona Powers, CPF, GCF
www.nonapowers.com (http://www.nonapowers.com)